Mail Archives: opendos/2001/05/29/11:32:00
great great answer. the detail that we hate typing manually is incredibly
helpful.
my project is based on the needs and pre arranements of others, so linux
solutions not available at this time.
i checked outs simtel. great assortment, though nothing indexed under
networking (sigh). i will keep looking around simtel. thank you.
again, i just want a win 98 mahcine to read files from a dr dos machie, that
itself is attached to dr dos and personal network network. if it was a stand
alone dr dos machine, this might be easier of course. the dos machine needs
to work as a server and share its files, and perhaps its printer.
-rich
-----Original Message-----
From: root AT albatross DOT prod DOT itd DOT earthlink DOT net
[mailto:root AT albatross DOT prod DOT itd DOT earthlink DOT net]On Behalf Of Thomas A Webb
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:22 AM
To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
Subject: Re: Fwd: DRDOS & IP (also IE5 for W3.X)
The winpkt shim is a small software module that loads between a
packetdriver nic or ppp device and the windows socket. Without the shim,
windows loses the socket as it thrashes pages between ram and hard disk.
The winpkt shim is part of the packet driver collection from crynwr or
simtel, and is also part of the Trumpet Winsock package, which is also
available from simtel. Try to find an old version of Trumpet, newer
versions suffer badly from feature bloat.
If you have trouble locating this stuff, I will park it on my website
and you can download it from there. I prefer not to do that except as a
last resort since that makes me a distributor for someone elses stuff,
and I don't want to deal with licensing issues even if the stuff is
shareware/free.
I have personally found that IP based networking works out better than
Novell; If you convert an old 486 to a linux server, you can run XFS or
Lan manager on the dos machines and share disk space and printers on the
server. That means no need for novell stuff at all, just install drdos
without networking, then install lan manager or XFS and you're done with
it. Trying to run all this ipx stuff really chews up low memory and cpu
and makes the machines run slow.
Rich Wilson ix wrote:
>
> what is a winpkt shim?
> What is win31 trumpet. how does one get it.
> also, how does one get novell lan workplace for dos, suite?This sound
> promising for me.
> What is latest version. i can find app notes referring to version 5 on the
> novell site, but not a copy of the files themselves.
> does it come on a cd with novell 5 perhaps, or some other way?
> thanks.
> rich wilson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root AT hawk DOT mail DOT pas DOT earthlink DOT net
> [mailto:root AT hawk DOT mail DOT pas DOT earthlink DOT net]On Behalf Of Thomas A Webb
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:06 AM
> To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> Subject: Re: Fwd: DRDOS & IP (also IE5 for W3.X)
>
> Most of our applications run on ethernet backbones through a Linux
> gateway and have ethernet cards. For NCSA or Arachne on drdos, a packet
> driver is all that's required as the dos applications supply the ip
> stack.. (There are a number of ppp-slip dialers that present the
> standard packet driver face to the world and work just fine.)
>
> I am running IE5 Win31 Trumpet over drdos with an ethernet connection to
> the ouside world, and it smokes.. My experience with MS provided dialers
> has been bad; I suggest using a dialer like that supplied with Arachne
> with the winpkt shim. MS has the bad habit of being "Proprietary" and
> doesn't always play well with the other kids :-)
>
> "da Silva, Joe" wrote:
> >
> > When you say "Trumpet winsock as the protocol stack", that's the
> > Trumpet Windoze TCP/IP stack, not the Trumpet DOS TCP/IP stack,
> > right?
> >
> > Also, remember "I am running ie5. using trumpet for the tcp/ip stack,
> > and it works fine" (2001/03/14) ... ? Well, I finally managed to install
> > IE5 for W3.X ... by booting from a MS-DOS 6.22 floppy first!!! It simply
> > would not install the dialler or browser using DR-DOS 6.0 or 7.02(+)!
> > Am I right to assume, the machines where you managed to install
> > this stuff, were running M$-DOS & Windoze 3.X ?
> >
> > Joe.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas A Webb [SMTP:tawebb AT earthlink DOT net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2001 4:32
> > > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > > Subject: Re: Fwd: DRDOS & IP
> > >
> > > Drdos supports ipx, a novell protocol. Out of the crate, it doesn't
> > > support IP.
> > >
> > > IP for dos is available in many flavors and most work with drdos quite
> > > well. For users of win3x, use a packet driver for ethernet or ppp
> > > connections, winpkt shim, and Trumpet winsock as the protocol stack.
It
> > > works well and is a bit faster than the same machine running MicroSoft
> > > dos. There is a ton of stuff for IP on dos at Simtel. If anyone needs
> > > specific help on this, I have been using it in recycling and teaching
> > > situations, and can help via email.
> > >
> > >
> > > Florian Xaver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, someone can help me?
> > > > I don't know the answerd:
> > > >
> > > > > Somewhere I've seen something like "DR-DOS supports DOS TCP/IP
> > > stack". But
> > > > > when I tried to DL this "new" version, I could find only old
1999
> > > version,
> > > >
> > > > > which I got that year from Caldera.
> > > >
> > > > > How about IP support in DR-DOS? Could you clarify the situation?
> > > >
> > > > so long,flox
> > > >
> > > > Dr-DOS - the unofficial page - http://www.drdos.org
> > > > SEAL - the best GUI for (Free)DOS - http://www.seal.de.vu
> > > > Ostbahnkurti -
> > > http://www.archlab.tuwien.ac.at/~hase/franz/konzert_kal.html
> > > > -=Lieber Inl?nder Rum als Ausl?nder raus!=-
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thomas Webb
> > > Come visit at http://wordwonder.com
>
> --
>
> Thomas Webb
> Come visit at http://wordwonder.com
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Thomas Webb
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