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Date:	Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:32:09 +0400 (MSD)
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Hi!

8-áÐÒ-2001 12:24 Matthias DOT Paul AT post DOT rwth-aachen DOT de (Matthias Paul) wrote to
<opendos AT delorie DOT com>:

>>non-SI naming - USA
>>        10^9, billion
MP> According to an old (ex-East-)German math book
MP> (from 1965) this somewhat odd notation is (or was?)
MP> also used in France and in the ex-Sovietunion, but not
MP> in (most?) other countries.

     I also found in one old book this mention (using billion=10^9 in the
ex-USSR), but in my life I (already?) not meet such using.

>>non-SI naming - German, Britany, France
>>        10^12, billion
MP> this one apparently not for France...

     Let we hear what says french mans. :)

>>        10^18, trillion
>>        10^24, quadrillion
>>        10^30, quintillion
>>        10^36, sextillion
MP> 10^42, septillion
MP> 10^48, octillion ("Oktillion")
MP> 10^54, nonillion
MP> 10^60, decillion ("Dezillion")
MP> Sometimes 10^15 is called a "Billiarde" (not to mix up with "Billion").

     Well, let continue:

                ex-USSR         USA             German/British/France

thousand                        10^3 (2^10)
million                         10^6 (2^20)
milliard        10^9 (2^30)     -               10^9
billion         -               10^9            10^12
billiarde       -               -               10^15
trillion                10^12 (2^40)            10^18
quadrillion             10^15 (2^50)            10^24
quintillion             10^18 (2^60)            10^30
sextillion              10^21                   10^36
septillion              10^24                   10^42
octillion               10^27                   10^48
nonillion               10^30                   10^54
decillion               10^33                   10^66
...
vigintillion    10^63
gugol           10^100

     All other names I currently can't remember and find in the dictionary.
Most questionable here are billion/milliard/billiard. Here I may approve
names usage in the Russia only, other countries extracted from dictionary.

MP> remember having seen at least a dozend slightly different
MP> definitions of an inch listed there even for European countries...
MP> Well, no longer an issue today, but one more reason to switch
MP> to SI and other international standards.

     Unfortunately, SI is not single standard in the world and even
in leading countries. :( USA and Britany is an big example of this. So I not
agreed with you when you say "no longer an issue today". I always angry when
meet in English->Russian translated literature measurements like "foot".
(And metric measurements in the, at least, English belletristic is "unknown"
issue.) B-\

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