To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com
Date:	Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:13:13 -0800
Subject:	Re: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
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From:	Robert W Moss <domanspc AT juno DOT com>
Reply-To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com

On all my computers you set the CMOS to automatic 
for all HD's or CD's, except for SCSI's, where you leave 
the setting at 'none' (ie: disabled) since all newer SCSI 
drives have there own BIOS (?) on the drive .  If you leave 
the CD ROM Drive set at 'none' (ie: disabled) the computer 
will ignore any IDE/EIDE drives installed at that location. 
Since almost 95% of all work station and personal computer 
systems sold are sold with dual  EIDE HD's/CD's/DVD's/ ZIP's 
or other backup devices  and no one is standing in line at any 
of my local computer stores complaining because the 
DVD/CDRW drives are burping on each other, (of course they 
mostly use Windoze 98/ME) the main problem with this 
installation is the drivers, which are probably not compatible 
and, in that case when was the manufacturer contacted about 
an up-to-date driver that works in DOS/Linux/Windoze.  

IMHO, if the drives don't work properly, 
and the manufacturer cannot help you, then  you should dump 
them as crap in the nearest computer boneyard.  Maybe you 
have got one of the WINDOZE software controlled drives, or 
"Heaven forbid" you (not considered by anyone so far) do not 
have a CPU and M/B combo which can handle all the work you 
are demanding from it.  Most of the units I have checked out 
lately require at least a 266MHZ CPU for the CDRW and if you 
are going to play music while you are doing some programming 
or compiling a database then you need a 1.2GHZ or faster unit. 
Better yet, why don't you buy one of those $199US DVD Music 
boxes.    That would solve all your problems.  That is the same 
thing as wanting to watch TV in a window on your computer.  
You can get a good 13" color TV for about $119 and you don't 
need a 1.2GHZ CPU to enjoy the Big Football Game while you 
are waiting for six or seven processes to complete compiling 
and your computer is slowed down from 180 to 4.77MHZ already.  

CPU power is the controlling factor when trying to do more than 
one thing at a time.  Most CDRW's now are at least 16x4x4 or better 
and most of them now are DMA33 or UDMA66, with a faster drive 
SPEC on the horizon, to keep up with AMD and INTEL CPU speed 
upgrades. 

At present, here in California, it is hard to find an AT board and all
the 
new boards are coming out with 166MHZ Bus and now moving to 
200MHZ Bus, with UDMA66 as the slowest IDE controller speed. Also, 
almost all of the new boards for the last three years have 2 EIDE   
connectors and 1 SCSI connector (capable of connecting 16 devices). 
If you have been ignoring IDE for the past five years, you are no longer 
in the loop as a technician.  And SCSI has also changed entirely in the 
past five years.  The new M/B's have the latest controllers built into
the 
board and are very fast,  but EIDE drives running at 7200/15000 RPM 
are faster than a lot (most) of the SCSI speeds you are used to seeing.  
Cost is still a factor, SCSI being more expensive by a factor of 1.8/2.5x

and that is why most people opt out for the EIDE systems.  Anyway 
most of the people buying the new systems are buying Windoze 
because it is easy to use and they don't have to do all this tinkering 
around with the config and autoexec files.  

Personally, I don't like to have everything built in to the M/B because
it 
limits me to what someone else (Like BILL) thinks I should use or do 
with my system, and then I still have to go out and buy new controller 
cards, sound cards, modems, etc and disable the on-board stuff if I can 
so I don't have to worry about the conflicts and can get out of my system

what I bought it for. 'SERIOUS WORK' or 'PLAYING GAMES".  However, 
If You want to play games you should really be better off buying a new 
Sony PS2 and playing games.  I heard a rumor that you can soon go 
on-line with the PS2 and play games on a PS2 Game site.  Of course, 
like all rumors, it probably is not true, because, remember, the 
Sony PS2 is not a 'COMPUTER' and is not a threat to 'Uncle Bill'. 
Of course you could buy one of 'Uncle Bill's' new Playstation 
Imitations and get a game player and music player all-in one  and sign 
in every day to MSN to play games and Napster style music.

I guess I have blabbered on to much so I will sign off with 

"Eat Chocolate once a day, after all, it is a vitamin and a vegetable,
and comes from a bean"

BOB 'DOMAN' MOSS

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:11:38 +1100 "da Silva, Joe"
<Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com> writes:
> See below ...

> <SNIP>

> 	Uhhh - last time I checked, ATAPI drives are always 
> *disabled*
> 	in the BIOS "CMOS settings" ... however, I have not played
> 	around much with ATAPI-aware BIOSes so, perhaps there are
> 	now some ATAPI-specific BIOS settings that I am not aware
> 	of. Nevertheless, a "disabled" setting for your ATAPI drives 
> is
> 	*always* appropriate and your safest option ...
> <Snip>

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