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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: Re: M$-DOS 7.10 (was Web browsers, CD-ROM drivers, nee Dr-dos... Installed!)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:40:05 -0700
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95, 95A and 95B is where we had the problems. 95B was terrible, because
they never bothered to upgrade the drivers for it. You had to play
around with it and load everything in a particular order, especially if
the customer had an AGP card. Stupid 95B did not even install the PIIX
drivers. You had to do all of this manually and reboot 15 gazillion
times to install 95B to make everything work the way it was designed to.
If the registry got corrupted, you had no choice. Even a reload of
WINDOZE on top of itself seldom worked with 95B.

Pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: M$-DOS 7.10 (was Web browsers, CD-ROM drivers, nee
Dr-dos... Installed!)


> See below ...
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 4:12
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: Web browsers, CD-ROM drivers (was Dr-dos... Installed!)
> >
> [da Silva, Joe]  ----- snip -----
>
> > > >
> > > [da Silva, Joe]
> > >
> > > Hmmm ... I *always* load the CD-ROM drivers (I have enough
> > > memory to fit them, so why not? I often boot just to M$-DOS
> > > 7.10 ;-) and never have a problem with Windoze 95B crashing.
> >
> > 7.10 is WINDOZE 98 DOS and like I said,they seem to have fixed the
> > problem in 98. 7.0 is WINDOZE 95 DOS. At least my OSR-2 is. There is
> > also an OSR 2.1 and maybe that version has MSDOS 7.10. But believe
me we
> > had many problems with this when I worked for Gateway Customer
Service.
> > Also which CONFIG and AUROEXEC are these located? If it is in
CONFIG.SYS
> > and AUTOEXEC.BAT, this is what causes WINDOZE 95 to crash. I had to
have
> > clients remove those lines or usually just changed the name of the
files
> > so there would be no CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC at all. WINDOZE does
not
> > need them. 95 was too stupid to know that the drivers had already
been
> > loaded. I mean my God, when I try and load a driver on DOS, it tells
me
> > that the driver is already loaded and refuses to load it again.
DRMOUSE,
> > NWCACHE, NWCDEX or even if I try to load MSCDEX on top of NWCDEX.
> >
> > WINDOZE 95 was one of the worse pieces of crap MS ever put out, but
I
> > will never know which is the worst, because when you are scraping
the
> > bottom of the barrel, how can you tell the difference!!!!!
> >
> [da Silva, Joe]
>
> Hmmmm!!!!  M$ have not changed the kernel much, despite
> many releases and versions of Windoze 9X. Their version
> numbering is total cr*p, too!!!
>
> Now ... do you _really_ think I don't know what @#$ O/S (well,
> O/Ses, actually) I have installed on this machine?!!!  Really!!!
> Sure, the original Windoze 95 or 95A (I think that was a
> second release) used M$-DOS 7.00 ... But my Windoze 95B is
> M$-DOS 7.10!!! Forget Windoze 98, this (AFAIK) uses the same
> kernel as it's predecessor and has nothing to offer the end user
> but more bloat and bugs and runs much slower (IMHO ;-)!!!
>


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