Mail Archives: opendos/2001/02/14/17:35:05
----- Original Message -----
From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:59 AM
Subject: RE: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> The problem with IDE CD-ROMs (don't know anything about
> ZIP and LS-120) is that the manufacturers started "adapting"
> IDE (ATA) to "make it happen", since the ATA standard had
> only been intended for hard disks! So in the beginning was
> chaos, with different manufacturers doing their own thing,
> until common-sense prevailed and the various parties got
> together to formulate the ATAPI standard (to suit such devices
> as CD-ROM and tape drives). Since then, compatibility has
> improved enormously, which is why it is now possible for
> the BIOS itself to recognize and communicate (eg. boot
> from) an ATAPI (aka. IDE) CD-ROM.
I don't mean to be cruel here, but if the so-called ATAPI STANDARD is so
standard they why is Utz having problems with two APATI devices? We are
not even talking about ZIP or LS-120 drives here, we are talking about
two supposedly satndard ATAPI drives. That tells me that after over ten
years of IDE that they still cannot get their ^&%$ together.
As for the so-called ATA STANDARD look at the problem White Dragon is
having with his so-called ATA standard IBM and Quantum drives. We still
are not talking about ZIP and LS-120 drives.
As far as I am concerned their is no IDE STANDARD. Every manufacture has
THEIR OWN STANDARD.
I am going to give my brother my old Maxtor IDE drive when I take it
out after getting the 4GB SCSI drive in and it will be very intersting
what problems I may run into when I install it on the Primary Controller
with his 850MB WD drive which are both supposed to be ATA drives. I
don't really expect a problem, because Maxtor was one of the most
compatible drives made. They are both EIDE drives and both can do block
transfers. There may have to be a comprimise on the block transfer size
to get the best performance from both drives. But if I recall corrcctly
they both work well at 16 blocks. I think I did benchmarks on both
systems and they both liked 16.
Pat
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Moran [SMTP:pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2001 10:59
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: prob audio CD on 2nd CD-ROM with NWCDEX
> >
> > I have been following this thread but have not put my two cents
worth
> > in. I was curious as to where this would lead.
> >
> > First off, I would like to say this: IDE sucks.
> >
> > Noe that I got that off my chest, I'll explain it. IDE is/was
supposed
> > to be a standard. The problem is that no one follows the standard.
they
> > take bits and peices that suit themselves and add other stuff to it.
> > Thus you have problems with drives working with one another. I good
> > prime example of this is using a ZIP or LS-120 drive with a CDROM
drive.
> > Sometimes you have to play around with them and set the jumpers for
> > master and slave around to get them to work properly. Sometimes you
> > cannot get them to work together at all. A slow drive can affest a
fast
> > drive. EIDE was supposed to have fixed all of this, yet it is still
here
> > in full daylight with the same old problems.
> >
> ----- snip -----
>
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