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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Subject: Re: DR-MOUSE, DPMS (was Hard Disk 20gb and dos)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:12 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT emailmetering DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: DR-MOUSE, DPMS (was Hard Disk 20gb and dos)


> The best way to load DRMOUSE is to *not* try to load it
> high. Install (run) it in conventional (lower) memory and it
> will load it's resident portion high, all by it's clever little self.
> That way, you just need about 7K (IIRC) free in the HMA
> to load it high, nothing extra for the initialization code ...

Actually, I don't use any LOADHIGH, HILOAD, or LH in any of the DRDOS
TSRs/Drivers. I let them all do their own thing. But you made a slight
mistake there, DRDOS DRMOUSE does not load into HMA, it loads into upper
memory.

Oooops, I'll take that back a little. I do not normally load DRMOUSE. If
I want it loaded, I just type DRMOUSE and let it load EXECPT when I use
Task Manager and intend to use the modem for communications. In that
case I force it to load low in each window that I wish to use it, and
then unload it before ending a task using it. This is not just a problem
unique to DRMOUSE. I have yet to find any mouse driver that can be
loaded high and not mess with the communications of the modem when I
switch that task to the background. It just halts the data flow.

Also I will firce some things to load low when using Personal Netware to
get the most use of upper memory. I let VLM do it's thing but paly with
the rest such as LSL.COM. The DRDOS memory manager is not too
intelligent (like QEMM is) and I have to play around with the small
drivers and TSRs to get the best results when using the server. The
client does not take that much. However, DRDOS memory manager is a lot
smarter than MSDOS's.


> Given that DPMS has been mentioned a few times
> recently (wrt. NWCACHE and NWCDEX), it reminds me
> that we have not come to a conclusion about the
> following (discussed several weeks ago) :
>
> 1. We established that the versions of DPMS.EXE that
>    could be freely distributed with client programs were
>    the OpenDOS 7.01 and the Novell DOS versions. So,
>    which is the best of these two versions to use?

Did anyone actually contact Lineo about this? Since it is not a major
upgrade, I don't see how they can change Novell's policy on this. They
would have had to purchase the license intact and since Novell made it
freely available to anyone, I don't see how Caldera/Lineo can/could
change it. If it were version 7.1 or something, maybe they could.

> 2. Is there any problem (ie. bug) that we need to be
>    aware of, for whichever is the best version selected
>    above? (Sure - we ourselves would normally use a
>    later version (eg. from DR-DOS 7.02+/7.03), but
>    these cannot be freely distributed ...)

I am not aware of any differences or bugs with any version. In fact I
don't even know if any code has been changed other than Novell's
updates, if there were any. I would have to look at the updated files
and see if it is there. I don't recall ever replacing it. There probably
is no difference from 7.00 and 7.01. Basically all 7.01 is, is Novell
DOS 7.0 with all the upgrades and new updated kernel files. I don't
think the even changed the copyright on the rest of the files. There may
have been a couple of other changes, but I cannot recall the dates and
details as to which was changed and when, but somewhere between Novell
7.0 original release and before 7.02, there were changes in NWCDEX. As I
recall this was in update 14. The update was supposed to make it work
with Terminate, but I never  did get it to work with Terminate.
Terminate has a hotkey (ALT-F10 as I recall) to play audio CD's while
you were downloading files or idle in some other way. I never could get
it to work with my SCSI CDROM. People who had IDE CDROMs reported that
it worked. I am pretty certain that was in update 14.

There was also an update for 7.02 to 7.03, I don't know if that version
of DPMS is 7.02 or 7.03 or inbetween. I have all of these files stored
on tape. I don't have any of the updates before 14, as each update
contained all the files from previous updates except of course for files
that were again updated such as the kernel files.

Pat




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