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From:	"Patrick Moran" <pmoran AT netzero DOT net>
To:	<opendos AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject:	Re: DOS and WIN/98
Date:	Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:15:32 -0700
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I am assumming that you are rebooting to DOS mode from WINDOZE 98.

If this is the case and you are not running a DOS window, why not just
install DRDOS and use it's boot manager to boot either into DRDOS or
WINDOZE 98. This will be basically the same thing you do when you reboot
to a DOS prompt with WINDOZE 9x.

What you will need to do is to repartition the HD and make a FAT 16
partition large enough to hold all of your DOS stuff. If it is more than
256MB then make more than one DOS FAT 16 partition each of which is just
under 256MB. (This is because of slack space caused with large cluster
sizes.) Make the rest of the drive a FAT 32 for WINDOZE 98. Then install
WINDOZE 98 to the FAT 32. It will put stuff into the C: drive which
should be FAT 16 and start the WINDOZE boot process from drive C: and
the after the kernel is loaded it will run from the FAT 32 partition.

After installing WINDOZE 98, install DRDOS and it will automatically set
up the boot manager for you and use the alternate CONFIG.SYS
(DCONFIG.SYS) and AUTOEXEC.BAT (AUTODOS7.BAT) files for you
automatically.

Then when you boot the system you hit function key F1 for 98 or F2 for
DRDOS.

This should eliminate any so-called DOS problems associated with 98.

I Suspect the problems you may be having is in the CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT files you use when you want DOS. WINDOZE may be reading
those. 98 is much better than 95 for this problem. You should use the
CONFIG.DOS and AUTOEXEC.DOS for the DOS setup under WINDOZE. But I am
not sure this will really cure all of the problems you may have.

Sooner or later you will have to do this anyway, because they will
probably update to ME or 2000 and neither of those have any DOS in them.
MS completely stripped DOS out of these. SO you will have to have a
separate DOS installed with those anyway.

Might as well jump in and do in now.

Pat


----- Original Message -----
From: "BLASZAK Nicholas D" <Nicholas DOT D DOT Blaszak AT state DOT or DOT us>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: DOS and WIN/98


> My name is Nick and I am a diehard DOS user.  I absolutely depend on
my DOS window under Win/98 for my productive work - even at my job which
is System Programmer for the Oregon State Legislature.  I support IBM
mainframe software - not PC - but use a PC with 3270 host emulation
(terminal emulation) to access my host S/390.
>
> The problem; For several months, since I've been upgraded to a Pentium
III 600 mh Tangent, I have experienced severe shutdown and boot up
problems.  I am the only one in my department of about 30 persons, who
have this difficulty.  Many of my peers have the same PC.  I am the ONLY
DOS user, and our PC administrator is blaming my problems on my use of
DOS!  He claims that DOS is illegitimate now, and not really a safe
thing to use etc. etc.
>
> He's got the boss thinking his way and so I'm being pressured to stop
using DOS.  Well this is like asking me to stop drinking water or
something - unimaginable.  I need DOS to do my work.
>
> Has anyone heard of system problems having to do with a user running
DOS under Win/98?  I'm talking about the regular DOS that is built into
Win/98's command prompt only.  The specific problems are that my PC,
over time, degrades more and more in terms of shutdown and bootup.  Once
it's up it's OK.  But when I boot up it comes up with blank screen -
basically halted - before loading Windows.  Then upon reboot, it may
come up in Safe mode etc.  It will take a few trys to finally get a
clean boot.  Shutdown also becomes failure prone.  The PC was rebuilt
(formatted HD) and the same problems revist.
>
> To try to resolve the probem, we have swapped my PC with another in
the office and rebuilt them both from an HD format on up.  I have been
asked to not use DOS for a period of time to see if the problem revisits
me.  I have not complied however, as I don't by the 'poison DOS' theory,
and prefer to believe it is in the hardware.  But if my new PC takes on
the
> same symptoms I'm going to have a weak case.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Nicholas Blaszak
> Software Analyst
> Oregon State Legislature
>
> Nicholas DOT D DOT Blaszak AT state DOT or DOT us
> (503) 986-1221
>
>
!
>



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