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From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:39:35 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert W Moss" <domanspc AT juno DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:03 AM
Subject: Re:


> In April 1995 Compaq sued Packard Bell, claiming that Packard Bell was
> shipping used parts in its PCs to enable the company to charge lower
> prices.

Why would they have to do that to under price Compaq? They could have used
cadillac parts and still under sell them! PB just got caught. Many other
manufactures have done this, they just didn't get caught. Local computer
stores do the same crap. I have seen it myself in manuafcturing. Although I
was not at a computer factory, I have worked at several consumer electronic
equipment factories and other non electronic factories. PB was probably
doing this big time and that is why they got caught.

Companies like PB and Compaq that build hundreds or tousands of computers a
day, cannot possibly burn them in for 72 hours and do good quality control.
So they ship out equipment that can go bad or even be delivered not working.
This all occurs because of greed. They get so large and have to produce so
many computers, they can hardly keep up with the market. They cut prices to
sell them to discount stores that order them in very large quantities. Then
it can cost them a bundle, because someone troubleshoots the defective
computer and will pull good parts out thinking they may be the bad part.
Sometimes they cannot really determine the bad component and send several
back for replacements. many of these parts are perfectly good. They also
have to pay for shipping the parts, then restocking them as used parts to
send out when the next defextive part comes in. This becomes an endless
cycle.

All of this forces the small guy out of the business because they cannot
compete with K-mart prices. The consumer has no idea of what a good quality
computer is from a piece of junk like a PB or Compaq. If they would pay
another 10% to 20% more and go to a good local computer store that would
build a computer to comstomer specs, they would save more money over the
long hall. Unfortunately the consumer is to blame for a large part of this
problem.

Many years ago, America was known for making high quality products. but when
the consumers started buy cheap and inferior imports, quality went south.
Now the name of the game is quantity. I cannot even remember how many places
I have worked for that preach QUALITY is our number one product, then scream
because you are not shipping enough product, because some penciled eyed,
pinhead jerk is looking at the bottom line. In the end it is the consumer
that gets screwed because they were too stupid to research wwhat they are
buying and buy a quality product.

So my attitude is, well my dear I frankly don't giva a ...

So people that buy Winmodems, Packaerd bell, Compaq and a host of other
crap, get what they deserve.

Actually back in the mid to late 80's Packard Bell made Quality computers.
Then they got geedy. I can tell you for a fact, that there are people out
there that should not even have a computer. I have seen total idiots when
comes to buying a computer and spend $6000 for one and can't even figure how
to turn it on!!!!! I have run across idiots that could go out and buy a
toaster and read the instructions and still burn their toast and blame it as
a defective toaster!!!!!!

Many years ago, I went on a service call for a brand new TV that had just
been delivered. he called the company I worked for that sold him the TV and
said he was getting snowy pcitures on his TV. He said he was connected to
cable. So I went out to his house and looked at the TV. Sure enough all the
local stations were snowy. I asked this idiot, who connected the cable? He
replied that the landlord connected the cable to the TV. It took me at least
ten minutes to try and explain to this idiot, that there another end to this
cable that must be connected by the cable TV company. I do not think he ever
did understand it! This is a true story. There are people like this that buy
computers!!!!!

'nough said!

Pat




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