To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com
Date:	Fri, 27 Oct 2000 03:50:00 -0700
Subject:	Re: dos web browser
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From:	Robert W Moss <domanspc AT juno DOT com>
Reply-To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com

There is also a Websuite 3.2a package for $49.99 (US I assume)
This includes Skipper Pro Web Browser, New Mail, Web Editor, Web Chat,
and New Desk. This comes as a single user version for a 80286 oe better
PC.  

New Deal Claims their packages are operating systems but still informs
you that you will need some version of DOS/OS2/Windows9x to boot the
computer.  In Win9x you can run the programs in a DOS Window, but you
would have to edit the PIF in the properties box to ensure windows
doesn't crash.  You are also supposed to be able to run on a linux
system. 

I am not aware of any free ISP's for DOS based systems (Such as the dozen
or so like FreeINet and NetZero) although the last time I ran Version 3
Beta their was still an AOL (UGH!!) ICON.  This has been part of the
system since GEOS v1.0, before MSIE became the AOL Browser  by contract.
AOL refused to update the interface after GEOS v2.0 came along, so when
we called in from GEOS v1.2 we got updated to the v2.0 interfaceby AOL.
That was back in 1995, when I bought a copy of GEOSworks Pro at a
computer show and tried to register it and found out GEOS was not
supporting the old versions anymore.  That was about the same time New
Deal Licensed GEOS and GeoWorks went off into embedded systems and palm
devices like the UPS Delivery Pad Palm device. They even Licensed a few
companies like Brother , which put GEOS v2.0 in a rom chip on a portable
laptop/printer unit which sold for about $299US and came with a built-in
modem and printer, but no sound card, and used a LCD screen display.
There was also a color LCD screen version for $500US but both models
disappeared after about 2 years.  They didn't have much memory and
problably used a 80286 processor or a Japanese equivilent but I was never
able to find out the specs from any of the documentation I read.  

Anyway, it works good and you can play any of your DOS games in a MSDOS
window or just start up in DOS and only use NDO when you want to have a
GUI.  Unlike Windoze, if there is a problem and it crashes, all you have
to do is restart and it politely tells you that there was a problem the
last time you ran it and asks if you want to reset the system.  When you
click yes it resets the system for you and you can go on your merry way. 

It is not a memory hog and can run with 640k of ram and a 20Meg HD,
including all of the office modules, and the 3.3/or higher  DOS system,
with room to spare for any DOS apps you need.   Version 2.0 runs on a
808x system with DOS 3.1.  There are still a lot of the old packages out
there.  I just bought a Quick Start package ( I think this is v1.5),
including a Video, for $15US at a cheap/old computer store in Vacaville ,
California. It's good stuff for the grandkids.


"If you use your system in a dirty environment, open it periodically and
vacuum the boards and components with a small vacuum designed for this
kind of work.  Don't loosen anything in the process -- sucking all the
chips off the system board with an industrial strength wet/dry vac is not
covered by your warranty!" ( ;-)

When you are installing software, be sure you have an 'any key' on the
keyboard.   ( <--| ) .

BOB 'DOMAN' MOSS  'Chocolate is a vitamin'

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:22:52 +0200 Philippe Dallemagne <pda AT csem DOT ch>
writes:
> Mark,
> 
> Joe is right, the demo version as well as the full version consist 
> in a
> complete package, including the browser  You need to have a machine 
> with
> a DOS installed (DR-DOS preferably ;-), and you need to know your 
> ISP
> parameters and login information to connect to the Internet.
> 
> There are two newsgroups that discuss GEOS-based software (very
> informative) :
> news:comp.os.geos.misc
> news:comp.os.geos.programmer
> 
> If you have any question regarding Geos-based software, my best 
> advice
> is to have a look there.
> 
> Philippe.
> 
> "Da Silva, Joe" wrote:
> > 
> > Read the fine print!  ;-)
> > 
> > What you download is not the browser 'per se', but the whole
> > "newdeal" package, which includes the browser. You fill out
> > a form, so they e-mail you the decompression password and
> > "take it from there" ... (that's as far as I've gotten - when I 
> find
> > some time, I hope to actually try it out ...).
> > 
> > Joe.
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >     I went to the site but didn't know what to look for and 
> didn't find
> > > the
> > > browser?  Have you a ftp location for the file and a file name 
> for the
> > > browser?  If so please pass along!
> > >      Thanks,
> > >       Mark
> 
> SNIP

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