From:	"Florian Xaver" <dos DOT fire AT aon DOT at>
To:	<opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject:	Re: PTS-DOS etc.
Date:	Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:47:32 +0200
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Info: There are some FreeDOS GUI project's (FreeGEM, SEAL, OpenGUI, etc.)
at www.freedos.org

so long, florian

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Robert W Moss <domanspc AT juno DOT com>
An: opendos AT delorie DOT com <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Datum: Samstag, 08. Juli 2000 22:02
Betreff: Re: PTS-DOS etc.


>Personally, I like the x-windows idea.  If GEOS could do it back in 1987,
>
>how come no-one except IBM and MS have done it since.  Gem was a
>good idea, but lack of icons gave it a clunky appearance and problably
>caused a lot of people to disregard it.  I never did like the blank
>screen
>black w/white letters or blue w/white letters (better) or white w/black
>letters
>and no control panel or drop down command windows.
>
>There are many people out there making icons and wallpaper for
>GEOS/New Deal and a lot of the stuff is freeware. The only problem was
>the restriction to low density screens. Now they have a 64bit version,
>which I have not yet installed, which may be interesting.
>
>Memorizing  700 different commands for DOS and every dos based program
>you use is actually pretty taxing on the grey cells and I find myself
>having to
>refer to my 100+ volume library all the time when I enter the command I
>think
>is right but doesn't do the job, even when there is a popup or dropdown
>window
>available.  A lot of the DOS programs don't have a good help file and
>never a
>HyperText  file to refer to.  This would be a requirement for a good DOS
>environment.
>
>The GEM Freeware site has a lot of stuff available but it is mostly left
>at
>the same point Digital Research left it at when it was dropped.
>
>Is it possible that there is someone out there who is quietly doing the
>same
>for free/open DOS.
>
>Throw that in with multi-tasking and advanced memory management,
>ie. use of all memory up to 700+ megs, and we would be out there with
>Gnu-Linux.  That would make a lot of people happy, as they could install
>games and test programs and do word processing etc etc to their hearts
>content.
>
>Every little thing helps and makes DOS easier to use.
>
>
>On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:33:39 +0200 "Florian Xaver" <dos DOT fire AT aon DOT at>
>writes:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I found on an archive the beta (1995!!) from PTS-DOS 7.0. I
>> downloaded it
>> and read the readme. This is very interesting (but I don't think
>> that they
>> will do that :( ):
>>
>> _________  We are going to make:
>> - Virtual extended memory                                         //
>> very
>> interesting (but not included in PTS 2000, I think)
>> - Decrease required memory size to <2Mb
>> - Accelerate disk operations by~40%
>> - DPMI support
>>      //
>> like above
>> - Windows support
>> - Writing in HPFS, CHKDSK and FORMAT programs with HPFS
>> - Built-in CD-ROM support
>>
>> // I think they mean, that you can start it in config.sys with the
>> install
>> command.
>>
>> - Built-in mouse driver
>> - Built-in disk compression utility
>> - Built-in antivirus protection
>> - Built-in network
>> - COM-port buffering
>> - 4DOS commands support in COMMAND.COM
>> - UPS support                    // whats that?
>> - Green functions            // whats that?
>>
>> And for the future :)
>>
>> - PTS-DOS 8.0: multitasking DOS in text mode, new features:
>>    concurrent executing of DOS, Windows, OS/2 full screen
>>    and DESQview applications
>>    print spooler
>>    Clipboard, common with Windows
>>    NTFS and Windows 95 FAT support
>>    Flash-RAM support
>>    REXX command files support
>>    OS/2 full screen tasks executing
>>
>> - PTS-DOS 9.0 (PTS-Win 2000):  multitasking operating system with
>> graph
>>   interface. New features:
>>    TCP/IP support
>>    graphic interface based on X Windows ¿ OSF/Motif standards
>>    concurrent executing of DOS, DESQview, Windows, Windows 95,
>>    OS/2 (full screen ¿ PM), BSD Unix programs.
>>
>>
>> It would be interesting, if they continue developing now and which
>> features
>> they will include (if they continue.) If FreeDOS would have this
>> features
>> like PTS 8.0 I would be lucky :-))))))
>> But maybe in the future...
>>
>>
>> Another question:
>> FreeDOS (the kernel) had also an IFS file. Did it include the FAT
>> system
>> like PTS-DOS?
>> If yes, why is it included into the kernel yet? It would be easier to
>> include more file systems!!
>>
>> At the end: I included the full readme file! It isn't a word file,
>> only
>> plain text.
>>
>> Bye, Florian
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Seal -  free desktop enviroment for DOS
>> http://www.seal.de.vu
>> FreeDOS
>> (English) http://www.freedos.org
>> (German) http://www.freedos.de.vu
>> Dr-DOS unofficial homepage
>> http://www.drdos.org
>> Download Dr-DOS here: http://download.drdos.org
>> Donate the rainforest: http://www.therainforestsite.com/
>>
>
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