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From: dallasii AT kincyb DOT com
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 03:56:46 -0700
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.11.28.3.56.46.2375661496.4833704@kincyb.com>
Subject: Loader comments
To: opendos AT delorie DOT com

Enough lurking, it's time to speak out.........
(I haven't got any problems, just some comments, suggestions,
and questions to clearify some points.)


From:       INT:sb1 AT Mindspring DOT com
  > 
  > Hi all.
  > 
  > I am trying to play with the loader prog in od 702 beta.
  > ..............
  > 
  > Next can you have OpenLinux as one of the boot choices?
  >........................

I think it was the August '97 issue of Linux Gazette that had
an extensive discussion of setting up LOADLIN to boot
Linux, such as assigning it to the SHELL variable in CONFIG.SYS.
This with the "?" and "CHAIN" DR/Novell/Open DOS CONFIG commands
should add this to you options.
 
  > thanks
  > Sam
  > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

From:       INT:MPaul AT calderauk DOT com
  > 
  > On 97/11/16 18:00:19 Sam asked:
  > 
  > 
  > >Next can you have OpenLinux as one of the boot choices?
  > Using the standard boot sector, you can chain multiple boot mangers, too.
                (   A-  Which one, Master or partition?)

  > For example, I use the OS/2 boot manager (in a selfcontained partition)
  > to select between Warp, Linux, and LOADER. If I select LOADER, I can
  > select from various version of DR DOS, Novell DOS, OpenDOS, and
  > Multiuser DOS, or the standard boot sector, which brings me to the NT
  > boot loader, where I can select NT or Windows95. Finally from Windows95
  > I could select MS-DOS 6.22 (or PC-DOS 7), if I d really want too...
  > 
  > ..........................................

Is this order just the how you discussed things, do you have a 
a special version of Loader, or am I missing something?
(Maybe the capabilities of the NT boot loader & Windows 95?)

You seem to imply:

Boot Manager -> Loader -> NT boot loader -> NT
             \  Linux  \  various DOS's  \  Win95 -> MS-DOS 6.22
             \  Warp                              \  PC-DOS 7

On my system, the order is:

Loader -> Boot Manager -> Dual Boot -> Batch Files that use a utility
       \  various OS's  \ various      'Bootsect.exe' from a book by
                          partions      Ronnie Richardson, that can
                                        extract and write Partition
                                        boot sectors, coupled with
                                        renaming the various io.sys
                                        & dos.sys / ibm*.com files
    
On looking M.P.'s stuff over, maybe Loader uses a different
sector (Master or Partition) depending on whether it's on the
first Primary partion or not?
      
  >  Matthias
  > 
  > 
From    : INT:MPaul AT calderauk DOT com       Refer to : NONE


  > Although you can merge OpenDOS  & MS-DOS  CONFIG.SYS and
  > AUTOEXEC.BAT files, I recommend to maintain them in seperate files. 

Something I found out before I knew about the DCONFIG.SYS file
was that MS-DOS 5.0 (I really don't know about any others)
ignores the CHAIN= DR/Novell/OD command.

  > <part 2 following...

  > ------------------------------------------------------------
  > Matthias Paul
  > eMail: <Matthias DOT Paul AT post DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
  > Web: http://www.rhrz.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html




From    : INT:MPaul AT calderauk DOT com       Refer to : NONE
  > ...............
  > you can also use the older DRI or Novell LOADER, or the CCI LOADER,
  > which uses a different configuration file format. There are alot of other
  > boot loaders out in the wild: As long as they support DR DOS 6.0+ you
  > can use them with OpenDOS.

Are you using any of these (See my first question.) ?

  > ..............
  > DOS, Concurrent CP/M, CP/M and OS/2 1.x are all directly supported by LOADE
R, 

What's this OS/2 1.x limit?  Just what you've tested?
I'm using it right now with Warp 3.0 - you just point loader to 
the file 'os2ldr' in the BOOT.LST file.
The CONFIG.SYS file conflicts with MS-DOS, but I think this can be
solved by setting up the Recovery Choices menu to pop up,
and using a CONFIG.A (or B or C etc)

  > .................


  > ------------------------------------------------------------
  > Matthias Paul
  > eMail: <Matthias DOT Paul AT post DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
  > Web: http://www.rhrz.uni-bonn.de/~uzs180/mpdokeng.html


With all the talk about Windows 95 compatability on this list,
am I the only person using OS/2 on this list?

One thing I've noticed is that sometimes after creating a file
with OpenDOS, then switching back to DR DOS 5.0,
I get an error message trying to access the file - it last
happened too long ago for me to remember any specifics.


Thanks & Best Regards,
Dallas E. Legan II
(562) 862 - 4854 ext. '*'
legan AT acm DOT org
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dallasii AT kincyb DOT com

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