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From: Christopher Croughton <crough45 AT amc DOT de>
Message-Id: <97Sep12.120508gmt+0100.11649@internet01.amc.de>
Subject: Re: ClosedDOS???
To: ark AT mpak DOT convey DOT ru (-= ArkanoiD =-)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:10:21 +0100
Cc: crough45 AT amc DOT de, opendos AT delorie DOT com
In-Reply-To: <AAIJH6qeV7@mpak.convey.ru> from "-= ArkanoiD =-" at Sep 12, 97 11:09:22 am
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-= ArkanoiD =- wrote:

> Yep,i use it too but i can't call it "a _good_ vt100 emulation".

It works with the places I've tried.  Although most real VT100s wouldn't,
in fact - the VT100 is very limited by modern standards (yes, I do have
one, a real DEC VT100).

> vt102 is my default console driver.

I use DVANSI most of the time, it's optimised for DesqView.

[PCDOS]

> It is (unlike OpenDOS) _really_ 100% compatible.

OK, that's a plus.  In fact, it's an essential from my point of view,
one reason I never used DrDOS or Novell DOS was that I knew several
progams which wouldn't run under them properly.

> > Which other features does PCDOS have that I don't already have?
> 
> Utility set that is much better than M$ - compressed filesystem (Stacker),
> disk defragmentation software (Central Point) other things like that..

MSDOS 6.22 has a compressed filesystem, which I deleted as soon as I could
- I have an intense dislike of those things.  Too much RAM, too slow and
make recovering data near impossible.

It has DEFRAG, based on the Norton/Symantec defragmenter.  Not very
configurable (it complains about 'unreadable' files but doesn't tell
you which ones or allow you to override it, for instance) but a lot
faster than the Norton one.

> Nope.. They made OS/2 for that.. but i don't like it.

It doesn't like one of my machines, and I haven't bothered putting it on
the other.

> > Why?  I'm not trying to be contentious, I'm interested in what you see as
> > deficiencies in 6.22.  I upgraded from 5.0, you see, and I saw it as an
> > upgrade.
> 
> Hmm and what new features have you got? I just could not get the "upgrade"
> feeling..

Defrag, undelete and help, at least (and all of them dropped in DOS7,
at least as DOS utilities; there are some Win95/GUI versions of them).  
Was 5 still using EDLIN, or did they have EDIT by then?  I don't
remember quite what was in 5.  Less base memory, certainly (although
on a machine with just base memory 3.3 was the last really usable
version), that was one of the selling points.  Better SMARTDRV.

So why do you think 5 is better?  Is it more stable in your experience?

> Hmm the talk on misc DOS versions and features is [indirectly] OpenDOS -
> related,am i wrong? If somebody here thinks it's offtopic we'll take it
> off the list..

OK...

Chris C

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