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From: "Wayne" <wjackson AT powerup DOT com DOT au>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Subject: Re: floppy-copy errors
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:01:49 +1000
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Floppy error and omisions can be caused from incorrect copying =
procedures for example tell copy that all files are to be transfered as =
ASCII files can cause problems, but that can be rules out.  If some sort =
of cache system is used this can also occur(UNIX users will note this =
when copy from a DOS partition over the network to a UNIX fs).  But that =
does not seem to be the problem.
Check the Floppy drive using Nortons or some other hardware testing =
software.
Wayne
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From: Bruce A. Locke <blocke AT nyx DOT net>
To: Wayne <wjackson AT powerup DOT com DOT au>
Date: Friday, July 25, 1997 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: floppy-copy errors

At 01:32 PM 7/25/97 +1000, you wrote:
>Actually the very first message relating to this topic

Here is as close as I have as I dumped my trash folder earlier...

>  I cannot help you with your question however your post brings-up one =
of my
>own.  You listed NWdos 7.01.15 and I thought that the product NWdos =
stopped
>at 7.0 where Opendos now began at 7.01?  Is that correct and are there =
some
>patches accounting for the .15 portion you refferr to in your question?
>      Thanks,
>
>On 1997-07-24 MCLACHLA AT tui DOT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz said:
> MC>Priority: normal
> MC>X-Mailing-List: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> MC>Precedence: bulk
> MC>Hi All
> MC>Has anyone else found errors after copying to floppy disk?  I use
> MC>Novell DOS 7.0.15 and get errors in copying large files to floppy
> MC>disk.  I detect the errors using COMP.  Typically, there are =
between
> MC>0 and 7 errors (different bytes) per file (I use three 350kB
> MC>test files).
> MC>I have found that if I clean boot, then the errors disappear.
> MC>Adding other programs makes the errors recur.  However, after many,
> MC>many tests I have yet to establish any logical pattern in the
> MC>results as to which setups work and which don't.  The same problems
> MC>occur with DR-DOS, but *much less* frequently with MS-DOS (i.e.,
> MC>only 1 file mis-copied out of 135).
> MC>The system is an AMD K5-PR133 on an ASUS TP24 motherboard (onboard
> MC>i/o).  There are absolutely no problems on my 486 system running =
the
> MC>same Novell DOS version.
> MC>I have tried swapping the floppy disk drive (and cable) from my
> MC>working 486 system, but this made no difference.  The remaining
> MC>possibilities are something to do with DR/NW/OpenDOS, the
> MC>motherboard, or the cpu.  Any thoughts and opinions would be
> MC>appreciated.
> MC>Cheers
> MC>Andrew McLachlan,  PhD student.             =
<MCLACHLA AT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz>
> MC>Dept of Entomology & Animal Ecology, P.O. Box 84, Lincoln
> MC>University, Canterbury, New Zealand.  ph. +64 3 325-2811, fax. +64
> MC>3 325-3844.
>


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<P>Floppy error and omisions can be caused from incorrect copying =
procedures for=20
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used this=20
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over the=20
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<P>Check the Floppy drive using Nortons or some other hardware testing =
software.

<P>Wayne</P>
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<B>From: </B>Bruce A. Locke &lt;blocke AT nyx DOT net&gt;<BR>
<B>To: </B>Wayne &lt;wjackson AT powerup DOT com DOT au&gt;<BR>
<B>Date: </B>Friday, July 25, 1997 1:33 PM<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: floppy-copy errors<BR>
<BR>
<HTML><BODY><FONT size=3D2>At 01:32 PM 7/25/97 +1000, you wrote:<BR>
&gt;Actually the very first message relating to this topic<BR>
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Here is as close as I have as I dumped my trash folder earlier...<BR>
<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; I cannot help you with your question however your post =
brings-up one=20
of my<BR>
&gt;own.&nbsp; You listed NWdos 7.01.15 and I thought that the product =
NWdos=20
stopped<BR>
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are there=20
some<BR>
&gt;patches accounting for the .15 portion you refferr to in your =
question?<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks,<BR>
&gt;<BR>
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href=3D"mailto:MCLACHLA AT tui DOT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz">MCLACHLA AT tui DOT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz</A>=
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&gt; MC&gt;Priority: normal<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;X-Mailing-List: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:opendos AT delorie DOT com">opendos AT delorie DOT com</A><BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Precedence: bulk<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Hi All<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Has anyone else found errors after copying to floppy =
disk?&nbsp; I=20
use<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Novell DOS 7.0.15 and get errors in copying large files to =
floppy<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;disk.&nbsp; I detect the errors using COMP.&nbsp; Typically, =
there=20
are between<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;0 and 7 errors (different bytes) per file (I use three =
350kB<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;test files).<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;I have found that if I clean boot, then the errors =
disappear.<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Adding other programs makes the errors recur.&nbsp; However, =
after=20
many,<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;many tests I have yet to establish any logical pattern in =
the<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;results as to which setups work and which don't.&nbsp; The =
same=20
problems<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;occur with DR-DOS, but *much less* frequently with MS-DOS =
(i.e.,<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;only 1 file mis-copied out of 135).<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;The system is an AMD K5-PR133 on an ASUS TP24 motherboard=20
(onboard<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;i/o).&nbsp; There are absolutely no problems on my 486 system =
running=20
the<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;same Novell DOS version.<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;I have tried swapping the floppy disk drive (and cable) from =
my<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;working 486 system, but this made no difference.&nbsp; The=20
remaining<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;possibilities are something to do with DR/NW/OpenDOS, the<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;motherboard, or the cpu.&nbsp; Any thoughts and opinions =
would be<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;appreciated.<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Cheers<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;Andrew McLachlan,&nbsp; PhD=20
student.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
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&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:MCLACHLA AT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz">MCLACHLA AT lincoln DOT ac DOT nz</A>&gt;<BR>=

&gt; MC&gt;Dept of Entomology &amp; Animal Ecology, P.O. Box 84, =
Lincoln<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;University, Canterbury, New Zealand.&nbsp; ph. +64 3 =
325-2811, fax.=20
+64<BR>
&gt; MC&gt;3 325-3844.<BR>
&gt;<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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