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Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 08:22:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca>
Reply-To: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca>
To: Joseph Morris <b52g AT usa DOT net>
cc: opendos AT delorie DOT com
Subject: Re: EDIT (and something bad.. but what?)
In-Reply-To: <ww01-BemmuK2544@netaddress.usa.net>
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On Tue, 13 May 1997, Joseph Morris wrote:

> >>>Look, instead of arguing about this, let's try and do something
> >>> constructive.
> >>What???  Arguing???  You've read the thread TOTALLY wrong!  I was
> 
> Evidently I have, and I offer my apologies.

Ok, no problem.  Sorry for the long delay in replying.  My inbox
is really saturated but slowly coming back to normal.

> >>> If Gene is listening, perhaps he could tell us what the newui
> >>> does that might be unstable, so we could try some experiments
> >>> to isolate the problem.
> 
> >Probably the video mode.  Looks like it uses a funny scanline
> >mode or something.
> >
> >It is simple to disable the UI for now.
> >>> Mine is a 5436 PCI, that other fellow's was a 5440.
> (not a 5446 as I said earlier.)

My friends 5446 2meg works fine with newUI.  He has an AMD
DX4-100 with nothing special.  It was a cheap $55 card.  Works
good though.

> >>> Both these apparently fail.
> >
> >Well, I've got a friend with a 5436 that it works on.
> 
> ??? How can this be?

Beats me, because I've now seen both a 5436 and a 5446 that work
with NewUI and also I've seen the same models fail on other
machines.  Keep in mind it wasn't the same card in a different
machine, but rather a different card in a different machine.
Very strange indeed.  Different steppings?  Different video bios?
Beats me!!!  Very very strange.  Then again, I've seen 2 Trident
8900 cards function differently before too.  Must be some faulty
cards out there I guess and some non-faulty ones.
 
> Of two machines, OpenDOS crashed on one of them with a PCI CL5436.
> These machines were about as different as they could be.
> When the graphics cards were swapped, the other machine, now 
> containing
> the 5436 crashed in the same way, each time NewUI programs run. 

Hmmm...

> The specs of the two machines were:
> 
> 150Mhz Intel Pentium
> Ancient Triton VX motherboard
> 32Mb RAM
> PCI CL5436 video card with 1MB of RAM
> Soundblaster AWE32
> 3.5 gig Maxtor EIDE disk and 1.6 gig Maxtor EIDE disk
> 28.8 Modem
> SCSI ZIP drive
> Win95

I don't have the full specs of the machines that I've seen UI
working on, but I doubt that it would make a difference, I think
that some of the chips are flawed.

> The other (now containing the 5436.  On hand for experiments.):
> 
> AMD K75
> Triton Spider motherboard
> 16MB RAM
> PCI ET6000 with 2.5 MB RAM
> Win95-slaying dual soundcard configuration:
>    Jazz-16 soundcard for SB services and OPL3
>    Wave Excel soundcard for MPU401 and WSS services.
> Two Seagate Disks, 540Mb each.
> Parallel ZIP drive
> OpenDOS (from DRDOS 6.01)
> 
> Now, I doubt it is the ZIP drive because it would be dormant until
> the drivers are run, which won't happen on the OpenDOS setup disk.
> The Parallel ZIP disk will have even less presence, and the problem
> travelled _with_ the CL5436 anyway.

Yeah, again, I think it is that some of the cards out there are
faulty.  Perhaps even a different stepping of the chips or
something.

Probably not hard to code around though.

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