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Message-Id: <199705151943.PAA12434@delorie.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:43:45 -0500
From: "Jonathan E. Brickman" <brickman AT cjnetworks DOT com>
Reply-To: "Jonathan E. Brickman" <brickman AT cjnetworks DOT com>
To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
Subject: Re: OpenDOS graphics drivers
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> Have you ever *used* X?

I have.  Extensively.

> That URL is just a chapter of the infamous "Unix Hater Handbook".

Yes.  That book is very accurate in some areas.

> Now some facts:
> X11R4 is *ancient*. It's X11R6.3 now, so xclock should use more than 656K.
> The memory usage of running xclock on my system:

> Total memory used: 1028Kb
> It's a lot, but....
> Of those 1028Kb, 780Kb are shared with other apps (it's basically all of
> the athena widgets, plus libX11 and libXt, it's like counting GDI.EXE and
> USER.EXE as part of a windows program). So, xclock's memory usage is....
> 248Kb, not 656Kb.

248K is disgusting for something as simple as xclock.  Leaner
clocks are better, yes.  But the memory utilization of Unix/X
apps in many situations is worse than Windows 95.
That is very bad.

> And X *is* useful. And X has a free implementation
> that could be ported to DOS.

I don't think anyone here has said X is not useful.  X is,
however, horribly badly constructed, takes a ridiculous
amount of resources to run, can eat a LAN's bandwidth
for breakfast, and spawns really buggy software via
its poor construction.  Kind of like Windows 3.11, but
faster, with far less useful software available.
I can do one heck of a lot more with a workstation
running Windows 3.11 on a Pentium in 8 megs of
RAM than I can with a workstation running X-Windows
under any Unix on the same hardware.

Jonathan E. Brickman         River City Computing, Inc.            (913) 232-6663
http://www.cjnetworks.com/~rivercity                    brickman AT cjnetworks DOT com
It seems to me that men usually think more about carburetors, and women
think more about doors.  I think the world needs really good carburetors...and
really good doors.

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