Date:	Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:20:31 -0600 (CST)
From:	"Colin W. Glenn" <cwg01 AT gnofn DOT org>
To:	"'OpenDOS newsgroup'" <opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net>
Subject:	Re: [opendos] The Caldera Page
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On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Colin W. Glenn wrote:
> 
> > > > And this is what I'm talking about, unless you're referring to _direct_
> > > > access to the FTP server, thanks no, I'll stick to "ftp://".
> > > Yes, I'd prefer to use ftp too, however the only method I'm aware
> > > of is via http:// right now.  (Via caldera that is)
> > 
> > Oh!, I see what you're missing!, the http:// feeds the download command to
> > the cgi and it immediately generates a ftp:// which your browser catches
> > and resends to get the real link!  This happens fast because the gateway
> > stays open waiting for the ftp link it just sent you to come right back!
> > 
> > Try it with trace on.

Ahhh, this is what I call 'live' FTP, where you're logged in at the FTP
server _directly_.

> I've got no idea what you are talking about.  What I'm talking
> about is sitting at the bash prompt and typing:
> 
> bash~# ftp ftp.caldera.com

would be equivilant to:
ftp://ftp.caldera.com/
which access's their root directory and retrieves the listing, then
formats it and adds ftp:// links to all files and dir's found therein.
There's an advantage to using Lynx versus direct, when you click on a link
which Lynx figures is viewable, it will retrieve and format.

> And then cd'ing to a directory and typing "get od...."
> 
> What I'm getting at is NOT using a web browser for downloading at
> all, but using an FTP client. FTP doesn't understand http://

If Caldera's firewall allows direct FTP, I would think that it doesn't for
security reasons.  You're going to have to suffer using the browser
method unless they post the code onto a public server.


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