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From: mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:14:37 -0500 (EST)
Reply-To: mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca
To: Mark Habersack <grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl>
cc: Jim Lefavour <jamesl AT mail DOT albany DOT net>, opendos-developer AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net
Subject: [opendos-developer] Re: [opendos] OpenDOS + Win95 w/FAT32?
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On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Mark Habersack wrote:

Moved from [opendos]:

> > > All true, but OpenDOS will *have to* stay compatible with FAT, and
> > > if we want it to be *the best*, then we have to support FAT32 as
> > > well.
> > 
> > Yes, we need to be in the competition with the other "DOS" systems, 
> > which of course includes WINDoze 95.  So, unfortunately, we need to 
> > support FAT32.  I am only an intermediate programmer, so can it be 
> > made so that the Linux Ext2FS is used with a "transparent" 
> > translation for programs expecting FAT32?  That perhaps we could have 
> Sure, should be no problem with that. It just requires a good definition of 
> an independent API for dealing with *all* existing and future file systems 
> (maybe with an exception of VMS FS which is *really* weird).

As much as VMS is weird, it does exist, and I think we should
implement something that works for ALL FS's.  There must be a
simple way to put VMS LFN's into 8.3 format including version
numbers.  IE: use the Mach mangling and use the extension for
version number info.  FILENAMETHAT.ISAVMSFILENAME;34 would become
something like FILEN~K4.034.  DEC pathworks mounts VMS drives
into DOS without a hitch.  I doubt the source is available, but
nonetheless someone will want to mount VMS volumes.  We shouldn't
be prejudiced against any OS in making OpenDOS better.  Remember
the "Open" part.


> > (eventually) an FS that supports DOS programs, WINDOZE programs, and 
> > WIN95 programs simultaneously?  With a User-customizable GUI...  
> Can be made the same way it is done on Linux: you just 'mount' the partition 
> with another file system on some directory (or rather, in DOS case, as a 
> separate drive - although it is possible to mount the partition as a subdir)
> and use it transparently (at least user-wise).

Yep, I think it should be possible to mount BOTH ways from the
start.  I mean I for one love mounting under a subdir, but hey,
this is DOS, and I don't want to see drive letters disappear
either.  Both ways should be made possible from the start.
 
> > > wait, I am getting ahead of things a bit here, aren't I?
> Why? The worst thing is to make the first step: design the API, then it's 
> just a matter of implementing and testing it. Of course, it will take some 
> time, but with a whole community of users/programmers on the Net, testing and 
> improving it is much faster and reliable than inside *any* commercial 
> software company IMHO.

I agree.  The Open model is fairly new (in terms of a mass
market OS anyway).  If you look at the success of Linux, I think
that it will work good for DOS.


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