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Message-ID: <1cu64pAhs49yEwe5@darkblak.demon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:16:49 +0000
To: opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net
From: "Ian 'DrDebug' Day" <Ian AT darkblak DOT demon DOT co DOT uk>
Subject: Re: [opendos] A more ordered fixlist
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In article <Pine DOT LNX DOT 3 DOT 95 DOT 970204095936 DOT 166F-100000 AT capslock DOT com>,
mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca writes
>On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Ian 'DrDebug' Day wrote:
>
>> >> Also, I'd suggest an ANSI that is built into COMMAND.COM, what do you
>> >> all think to that?  Of course, it would be an OPTION!
>> >
>> >NO!!!!  What use is ANSI.SYS nowadays anyways?
>> >
>> >I'm not asking this to get flamed, just because I know of no uses for
>> >it anymore.  I used to use it to switch to 50 line mode, and use color
>> >in batch files, and a few other things.  Now I use a 17 byte non-tsr
>> >program which I've written to switch to 50 line mode, I use 4DOS for
>> >color in batch files, and to redefine the keyboard safely, and I use
>> >special viewers to view ANSI files.  As for using DOS via a serial
>> >port (which used to be the other reason I needed ANSI.SYS) I now use
>> >DOS over serial/modem via DOSemu with no ANSI.SYS.  What use does
>> >ANSI.SYS really have anymore?  I'm not suggesting in any way to get
>> >rid of it either, just asking because I don't know.
>> 
>> Well, for example, there's a lot of people out there that still use BBSs
>> (in fact, we still run one) and they depend on ANSI for colour display.
>
>I still use BBS's too, and I still get color ANSI screens on my
>screen too.  I *DONT* have ANSI.SYS loaded either.  I have also
>ran a BBS and didn't have ANSI.SYS loaded either.  Everything
>worked just fine and in COLOR on both ends.

Because, no doubt, you have a terminal emulator that will support ANSI
without the need for a driver.  It obviously has it's own internal one.  
Very few of them have this.

>> And how would you do a luverly multi coloured prompt that sits in the
>> top right of the screen without ANSI?  ;-)
>
>Use 4DOS as your command interpreter, and use the SCRPUT,
>DRAWBOX, DRAWHLINE, DRAWVLINE, SCREEN, TEXT, and VSCRPUT
>commands, as well as the built in 4DOS %@xxx functions and %_xxxx
>variables.  These functions use DIRECT screen writes (or BIOS
>writes if you configure 4DOS to NOT use direct writes).

I do use 4DOS.  I wouldn't use anything else.  The functions you mention
are not feasable for many of us 'die-hard-prompt-addicts' as it would
make it too long for the environment (yes, even 4DOS's).

>I can't justify loading ANSI.SYS and slowing down display writes
>by a factor of 10 just to see a cute prompt on the top of the
>screen.  Heck, I don't even do it in 4DOS anymore cause it got
>so annoying!

Annoying for you, maybe.  But for me, I display a whole bunch of info up
in the top right of the screen (memory, date/time, session name etc.)
This CANNOT be fast enough!  ;-)

DrDebug

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