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Date:	Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:09:33 +0000
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From:	"Ian 'DrDebug' Day" <Ian AT darkblak DOT demon DOT co DOT uk>
Subject:	Re: [opendos] Was: A more ordered fixlist Now: Memory mapped video is cool?
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In article <Pine DOT LNX DOT 3 DOT 95 DOT 970202073347 DOT 5878E-100000 AT capslock DOT com>,
mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca writes
>On Sat, 1 Feb 1997, Roger Ivie wrote:
>
>> Iam 'DrDebug' Day wrote:
>> >In article <Pine DOT LNX DOT 3 DOT 95 DOT 970201093351 DOT 4180A-100000 AT capslock DOT com>,
>> >mharris AT blackwidow DOT saultc DOT on DOT ca writes
>> >>On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Ian 'DrDebug' Day wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> One of the first things I will do is Direct screen writes, regardless of
>> >>> portability.  Who gives a s***, I want it fast on my PC... ;-)
>> 
>> I, for one, give a s***. First, it won't work on the VT52 I have hanging
>> off my serial port. Second, 
>
>When I use direct writes on my PC, it reads video memory and sends it
>down the wire to my remote PC just fine.  Sometimes it is a little
>gittery but it works great.
>
>> it won't work on embedded systems which use a
>> serial console instead of a video board. Why the f*** should I have to design
>> video and a keyboard interface into a black box that sits on an airplane and
>> logs chatter between the avionics boxes? It's just a pain to have to lug 
>> around a monitor and a keyboard just because the thing runs DOS.
>
>Hey!  Calm down!
>
>#1) Are you saying that you use COMMAND.COM on those little black
>    boxes on airplanes? I personnally think that this is NOT a good
>    enough reason for every PC user to NOT get direct video access.  I
>    mean the number of black box users to PC users with a real
>    keyboard and a real video card and real monitor are about
>    10000000/1.  Sorry.
>
>#2) What we were suggesting was to ADD support for direct screen
>    writes to existing OpenDOS programs (primarily COMMAND.COM). How
>    does this effect you?  It doesn't.  There will no doubt be a
>    command line switch or a config file to enable direct screen
>    writes.  Judgeing by the number of people interested in OpenDOS,
>    direct screen writes WILL become a reality.

I've started something cool here... ;-)

Now, what else is there......

>> Run CP/M some time. Push the reset button and here comes your A> prompt.
>> No f***ing ages to boot.
>
>Yeah, good arguement.  Try running ANY program on my entire hard drive
>in CP/M.  Hey, lets all throw our computers in the garbage, and use
>commodore 64's!  They come on with a prompt instantly.  Hey what a
>great idea Roger!  Come on, come into this century.  Honestly I think
>you just replied to start a flame war.

rotflmhopimp  ;-)

DrDebug

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