Mail Archives: opendos/1997/01/27/18:03:27
On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Mark Habersack wrote:
> >> > How much disk space does the entire subdirectory tree consume? I mean
> >> > including all sources and things needed to compile them.
> >> And including slack on a FAT disk with 32KB clusters, please! ;-)
> >32k clusters!! Ouch!! I wrote a program to analyze disk wastage on a
> >"cluster size" basis. With 32k clusters, and the disk being FULL of
> >files, you'll find that you have 30% disk wastage. Yes, thats right,
> >I said *THIRTY* percent. This means a 1 gig disk that is full is
> >wasting 300 megs. Scary eh?
> Yeah. And I have a 2 gig disk with *one* partition and 30% wasted coz M$
> didn't design their FS as they should (probably would cost too much... ;-))
That is VERY scary. I will never understand why no one likes multiple
DOS partitions. I have 1000 disk drive letters and I kinda like it.
I switch between drives in 4DOS by typing ALT-<driveletter>. Really
cool.
Hmmm. Remember the old DOS JOIN command? Does anyone know what
became of it? Sounds a lot like "mount" to me. If so, one could
divide a disk into 4 256M partitions and then "mount" the D drive
under C:\games, the E: drive under C:\bin, etc... I would definately
like to know if someone has the source for JOIN and if they could send
it to me.
> >My program consistently shows that: If you have a cluster size that is
> >larger than 4k, you are wasting too much disk space. 4k clusters
> >waste no more than 3% on average. I've done extensive testing on a
> >great many computers to get these results too.
> It is possible to change the cluster size, even on huge HDDs, to 4KB - just
> use Quaterdeck's 'PartitionIt!' - it works great. The only side effect is that
> your FAT copies grow to ~1M and it gets slow... ;-))) Gods! I wish OpenDOS had
> built-in support for ext2fs!! Shall we do it?
>
> >But don't take my word for it, do the following:
> I do! ;-))
You do what? Take my word? Cool, then I don't have to publish a
50meg file proving it. :o)
> >If you have 4DOS, go to your root directory and type:
> >
> Sure I have! Who hasn't?
Strange people who just *THINK* that they are programmers. They use
things like vi, and emacs, and COPY CON for creating text files. :o)
> >FAT SUCKS!!!!!!!! A happy medium is 250Meg FAT partitions. Don't make
> >them 256 though cause FDISK rounds off to the next highest cylinder
> >which could push you from 4k to 8k clusters.
> FAT sucks and it's too fat for our HDDs ;-)) But I don't like partitioning
> drives - it's almost impossible to recover from some crash when you mess up
> with vital areas of your disk ;-)
I've yet to experience a disaster disk crash in any OS.
> I've just heard that NWCDEX is in OpenDOS - if you still want it, I'll pass it
> along to you.
Hmm. I guess I'll wait for OpenDOS. It'll save me from reconfiguring
my system more than once. Thanks for the offer though.
> >Maybe Caldera will lower the price of WP6.1 for Linux down to $100 or
> >so. :o) Then I'll buy it for sure and DESTROY 3.11 forever!
> I wish Corel had made Corel Ventura for Linux... dreams... But speaking about
> word processing - have you tried the StarOffice package? I think it is
> compatible with WP6 file format. And works both on Linux and WinXX!!! And is
> FREE!
I haven't installed SO yet. I don't have the disk space, nor do I
have Motif yet. The Motif problem seems to be the biggest of the two
though. I'd really like to try out Star. Hopefully it will come out
of beta soon.
> >That is GREAT!!!! It will be cool to add code to the DOS kernel! For
> >my own devices and such. Also to REMOVE unneeded things. I don't
> >know what yet, but I'm sure I'll find something! And it's FREE! And
> >I'll have the sources! But when?!?!?! <argh> This is worse than
> >waiting for DOOM to come out a couple of years ago!
> Or for Win95 to disappear! ;-))
Unfortunately unlikely. :o(
> >Hmm. Will it run Doze apps, or just custom apps? It'd be nice if it
> >was like X.
> Dunno, but don't think so... But, hopefully, I'm wrong. But you'll be able to
> use X-Emu on OpenDOS!
Cool! If it is a good GUI, I'll try it out. Even if it only works
with programs written explicitly for it, it should be pretty good.
DVX was an ok GUI.
> >I've got those in my NS cache. I'm looking for OpenDOS logos though.
> >I'm going to put up the Caldera ones if I can't find the OD ones
> >though.
> If you step upon any of them - let me know!
Oh, someone will soon have one we can grab. Caldera probably has one
in hiding.
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