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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:49:48 +0100 (MET)
From: Mark Habersack <grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl>
Reply-To: grendel AT ananke DOT amu DOT edu DOT pl
To: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT sympatico DOT ca>
cc: opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net
Subject: Re: [opendos] Re: OpenDOS to be released next week! (fwd)
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On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Mike A. Harris wrote:

>> > How much disk space does the entire subdirectory tree consume?  I mean
>> > including all sources and things needed to compile them.
>> And including slack on a FAT disk with 32KB clusters, please! ;-)
>32k clusters!!  Ouch!! I wrote a program to analyze disk wastage on a
>"cluster size" basis.  With 32k clusters, and the disk being FULL of
>files, you'll find that you have 30% disk wastage.  Yes, thats right,
>I said *THIRTY* percent.  This means a 1 gig disk that is full is
>wasting 300 megs.  Scary eh?
Yeah. And I have a 2 gig disk with *one* partition and 30% wasted coz M$
didn't design their FS as they should (probably would cost too much... ;-))

>My program consistently shows that: If you have a cluster size that is
>larger than 4k, you are wasting too much disk space.  4k clusters
>waste no more than 3% on average.  I've done extensive testing on a
>great many computers to get these results too.
It is possible to change the cluster size, even on huge HDDs, to 4KB - just
use Quaterdeck's 'PartitionIt!' - it works great. The only side effect is that
your FAT copies grow to ~1M and it gets slow... ;-))) Gods! I wish OpenDOS had
built-in support for ext2fs!! Shall we do it?

>But don't take my word for it, do the following:
I do! ;-)) 
>If you have 4DOS, go to your root directory and type:
>
Sure I have! Who hasn't?

>FAT SUCKS!!!!!!!! A happy medium is 250Meg FAT partitions.  Don't make
>them 256 though cause FDISK rounds off to the next highest cylinder
>which could push you from 4k to 8k clusters.
FAT sucks and it's too fat for our HDDs ;-)) But I don't like partitioning
drives - it's almost impossible to recover from some crash when you mess up
with vital areas of your disk ;-)

>> Try to use NWCDEX. It's a free Novell MSCDEX work-alike. If you can't find 
>> it, I can email you the executable (20577 bytes packed with RAR).
>Please email it to me.  I want to TOTALLY rid myself of MS software!
>MSCDEX is about the only thing I probably would have missed!  I want
>to get it to the point where the only thing left is Win 3.1.  And even
>then only because I need it for WP6.1.  
I've just heard that NWCDEX is in OpenDOS - if you still want it, I'll pass it
along to you.

>Maybe Caldera will lower the price of WP6.1 for Linux down to $100 or
>so.  :o)  Then I'll buy it for sure and DESTROY 3.11 forever!
I wish Corel had made Corel Ventura for Linux... dreams... But speaking about
word processing - have you tried the StarOffice package? I think it is
compatible with WP6 file format. And works both on Linux and WinXX!!! And is
FREE!

>That is GREAT!!!!  It will be cool to add code to the DOS kernel!  For
>my own devices and such.  Also to REMOVE unneeded things.  I don't
>know what yet, but I'm sure I'll find something!  And it's FREE!  And
>I'll have the sources!  But when?!?!?!  <argh>  This is worse than
>waiting for DOOM to come out a couple of years ago!
Or for Win95 to disappear! ;-))

>Hey!  That just made me think of something!  We could add DOS *CHEAT*

>ODMAILBILL - Mails Billy G the contents of your DOS C:\TEMP directory
>             if you are currently connected to the net.  It encrypts
>             the stuff first though so he can't get anything useful
>             out of it.
COOL!! ;-))

>> And, eventually, take over part of M$ OS market! ;-)
>
>*PART*?  Lets CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!
Yeah!!!

>> (was it Atari) - but I'm not sure of that. Gene, am I right about anything of 
>> the above?
>
>Hmm.  Will it run Doze apps, or just custom apps?  It'd be nice if it
>was like X.
Dunno, but don't think so... But, hopefully, I'm wrong. But you'll be able to
use X-Emu on OpenDOS!

>I've got those in my NS cache.  I'm looking for OpenDOS logos though.
>I'm going to put up the Caldera ones if I can't find the OD ones
>though.
If you step upon any of them - let me know!

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