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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:17:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT sympatico DOT ca>
Reply-To: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT sympatico DOT ca>
To: Gene Buckle <geneb AT web DOT wa DOT net>
cc: "Mike A. Harris" <mharris AT sympatico DOT ca>, opendos AT mail DOT tacoma DOT net
Subject: Re: [opendos] Re: OpenDOS to be released next week! (fwd)
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On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > > The sources on the other hand may be huge.  There are over 2900 files to
> > > the full tree.
> > Holy cow!
> Hehe.  That's not even including the tools directory with the stuff needed
> to build it in its current form.  That's another 2700 files. *grin*

How much disk space does the entire subdirectory tree consume?  I mean
including all sources and things needed to compile them.


> > I'll..., I'll download the source code and change CONFIG.SYS to whatever I
> > want!!!!!!!!!!  OH YES, THIS WILL BE GOOD!!!!!
> > 
> 
> Hehe.  I think you're hooked. ;)
> 
> To utilize the "load-high" ability of EMM386, you can use DEVICEHIGH in
> config.sys and LH or LOADHIGH in autoexec.bat.  Keep in mind that it
> doesn't just stick things in "normal" high memory.  It shoves it above the
> 1 mb mark leaving far more of the base 640k available.  With all my sound

This is great!!!!  Bye bye QEMM!  Hmm.  Does it just do all of this
automatically or do you still need a program like Optimize or Memmaker?
Seems to me that it should probably just do it and not need those
programs.  Am I right?

> blaster drivers, cd rom driver, mouse driver and LAN workplace drivers
> loaded high, I still have 629k TPA as reported by mem.  If I forgo the use
> of VGA graphics, I can crank it up to 719k.  Let's see QEMM and MS-DOG do
> THAT! *Evil Grin*

Well, I've got 634k with QEMM and I've got all my drivers (a lot of them)
loaded into UMB's and I've got the HMA reserved for DESQview so DOS loads
into UMB's instead of high.  It gives me more mem that way.  But after I
got the CD-ROM, and UniVBE, and a couple other new drivers that are
needed, my memory has shrunk down again.  I loaded into the HMA now, cause
I don't really use DV anymore, but MSCDEX REFUSES to load HIGH!!!!!!!!
I've got 64k of contiguous UMB memory and MSCDEX is only using 12k!  It
WONT load into UMB's!  However if I unload a few other drivers, then
MSCDEX will load HIGH. I guess it needs like a meg of startup memory or
something before it shrinks to 12k.  Also QEMM has the VIDRAM program
which lets you get up to 730k of memory for apps if you don't use
graphics.  You can enable/disable this on the fly without rebooting.  I
don't have much use for it though.

Regardless, it sounds like OpenDOS does ALL of this PLUS much much more!
And it sounds like it does it better too!  I can't wait to see my progs
all loaded above 1M!  Hey, I got 20Megs of RAM!  I don't want to suffer
anymore with 589k in DOS!

> > No problem.  Any DOS program that screws up Windows '95 is merely getting
> > revenge for all the times that it happens the other way around.  Besides
> > LFN support will be here before long. I don't use '95, but I would like to
> > have LFN's in DOS because I'm a Linux nut now.
> Isn't that the truth....
They said, "All good things will come to those who wait."  Well, we've
been waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and now we will reap the rewards
of not supporting Microsloth.

> > You're not missing anything wonderful. DESQview was great, but programming
> > it wasnt.
> Hmm.  Kind of like programming a Mac.  Very pretty, but what a nightmare
> to code for.... (something like 3000+ API calls)
Never programmed a Mac before, I ate one though, a big one.  I think it
was at a restaraunt where I felt like a statistic.  :o)

> > True.  Perhaps someday WINE will be complete.  :o)
> Or perhaps WINE will become part of GEM....*smile*

There you go again with those acronyms that I've never heard of.  Ok, I'll
bite... What does GEM stand for?  What does it do? Where can I get more
info?  Should I sit down and foam at the mouth over it too?

Can you tell me where I can get a GIF or JPEG of the Caldera OpenDOS logo?
I want to plaster it on my webpage.  I'd like various sizes to choose 
from if possible.  Also, I want to do whatever else I can to inform others
of alternatives to M$.


Mike A. Harris  -  Computer Consultant   http://www3.sympatico.ca/mharris
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