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Subject: Re: [geda-user] gsymcheck 'make check' failure final analysis
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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:09:23 -0800
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On 12/27/20 10:12 AM, Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via 
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Roland Lutz wrote:
>>> Ideally there should be a way to prevent non-source tree config files
>>> from being loaded during a test run as there is no way to know what
>>> is in them which may cause the test to fail.
>> I agree.  It's pretty low on my priority list, though, since it would
>> become obsolete once the new configuration mechanism is in place.
> Oh? Please do tell :)
>
> Best solution I came up with was a new environment variable
> (GEDA_NOUSERRC?) that would block loading user rc files. But if there is
> going to be new and exciting things upcoming soon...
>
> A couple of lines in libgeda/src/g_rc.c, gsymcheck/tests/Makefile.am,
> and possibly runtests.sh.
>
> Glenn

Greetings,

I was about to move this thread out of the ANNOUNCE thread to a more 
appropriate subject when I noticed you beat me to it. Thanks. Hijacking 
the ANNOUNCE thread was my oops. Sorry.

I have been giving some thought about this problem overnight and I have 
decided this is not so much a bug in gEDA as it is a problem with my 
package build process. As observed, this failure only happens when the 
~/.gEDA/gafrc file exists. Most people probably build the package as 
root, where this file is non-existent (if they are smart, they are not 
running gEDA programs as root), so they will not see this problem. 
However, my package build process has two stages. First, I build in my 
user account, which I do use for gEDA projects and it does have the 
~/.gEDA/gafrc file. Then, when I am satisfied that that build stage is 
safe and correct, I go to stage 2, where, as root, I build the final 
package and install it.

For some time, I have been concerned about security when building in my 
home account, so I have been giving some thought to creating a limited 
user account that does not have network access apps and use it for the 
stage 1 builds. I started the transition a few days ago, before this 
gEDA make check problem surfaced, but I have not completed it yet. So, 
this coming week, I will escalate that task and complete that 
transistion and try the gEDA-gaf make check in that account and see if 
that solves the problem. I will report the results here when I determine 
the results.

IMHO, this is not a bug in gEDA and it may not be a good idea to 
incorporate test-specific code in gEDA, just to keep this "problem" 
silent. An example would be Volkswagen a few years ago was caught 
putting factory test code in their engine computers which disabled the 
emissions functions. This turned sour when the EPA discovered this code 
was running on their vehicles on the highway and polluting the air. As a 
result, VW got a stiff fine and their reputation is still not back to 
what it was before this incident.

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this problem and take care.

Girvin



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