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Oh, and if you're wondering, the changes that I have made in PCB are:
* Implemented "ElementPoly" so you can have silk polygons in elements -
essential for logos
* Added an extra layer that operates like an inverse of the solder mask
layer for adjusting the solder paste size for pads - essential for making
stencils
* Added rudimentary scaling of the contents of the pastebuffer (not
elements, but everything else) which is essential, again, for making logos
and getting them the right size.
The first of those adds extra stanzas to the footprint (and hence the pcb)
files. The second adds an extra value to each Pad entry for the solder
paste stencil aperture size. Both of those mean that my PCB files can't be
opened by a normal copy of PCB since it doesn't know what they are.
I added the changes a long, long, long time ago, and I have no clue how I
did them. So reimplementing them would be a lot of re-learning. If someone
has already implemented those, though, then I could look at switching to a
newer version and experimenting with the new facilities, but until then I
am stuck where I am.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 10:47 PM Majenko Technologies <matt AT majenko DOT co DOT uk>
wrote:
> Well, yes at the moment I do have to use it. I don't have the import
> functionality. The changes I have made to PCB have broken my ability to
> pull upstream updates. Until I get round to re-creating the changes in PCB
> (unless someone else has already done the things I have) in the current
> codebase I'm stuck with an older version. I mean, I can't even open my
> files in the new version (unless someone has changed the file format into
> the exact same as I have...)
>
> I guess I should check out the latest version sometime and see what I
> would need to reimplement to get myself up to date.
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 10:44 PM DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> "Majenko Technologies (matt AT majenko DOT co DOT uk) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]"
>> <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> writes:
>> > The way this system is designed, yes, I need to save and revert. You
>> > need to ensure that the file is saved before running gsch2pcb
>> > otherwise it won't know what he current elements are. And you need to
>> > revert afterwards so that any removed elements vanish in PCB.
>>
>> I guess my question is "do you really need to run the obsolete gsch2pcb,
>> instead of the new file->import that bypasses it and has much better
>> functionality?"
>>
>> File->Import does not use gsch2pcb, it uses a different netlist filter
>> that lets you do in-place updates.
>>
>
>
> --
> *Matt Jenkins*
> Majenko Technologies
>
>
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*Matt Jenkins*
Majenko Technologies
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh, and if you're wondering, the changes that I have m=
ade in PCB are:<div><br></div><div>* Implemented "ElementPoly" so=
you can have silk polygons in elements - essential for logos</div><div>* A=
dded an extra layer that operates like an inverse of the solder mask layer =
for adjusting the solder paste size for pads - essential for making stencil=
s</div><div>* Added rudimentary scaling of the contents of the pastebuffer =
(not elements, but everything else) which is essential, again, for making l=
ogos and getting them the right size.</div><div><br></div><div>The first of=
those adds extra stanzas to the footprint (and hence the pcb) files. The s=
econd adds an extra value to each Pad entry for the solder paste stencil ap=
erture size.=C2=A0 Both of those mean that my PCB files can't be opened=
by a normal copy of PCB since it doesn't know what they are.</div><div=
><br>I added the changes a long, long, long time ago, and I have no clue ho=
w I did them. So reimplementing them would be a lot of re-learning. If some=
one has already implemented those, though, then I could look at switching t=
o a newer version and experimenting with the new facilities, but until then=
I am stuck where I am.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 10=
:47 PM Majenko Technologies <<a href=3D"mailto:matt AT majenko DOT co DOT uk">matt@=
majenko.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Well, yes at the moment I do have to use it.=
=C2=A0 I don't have the import functionality. The changes I have made t=
o PCB have broken my ability to pull upstream updates. Until I get round to=
re-creating the changes in PCB (unless someone else has already done the t=
hings I have) in the current codebase I'm stuck with an older version. =
I mean, I can't even open my files in the new version (unless someone h=
as changed the file format into the exact same as I have...)<div><br></div>=
<div>I guess I should check out the latest version sometime and see what I =
would need to reimplement to get myself up to date.</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 2, 201=
9 at 10:44 PM DJ Delorie <<a href=3D"mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_b=
lank">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex">"Majenko Technologies (<a href=3D"mailto:matt AT maje=
nko.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">matt AT majenko DOT co DOT uk</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto=
:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]"<=
br>
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT de=
lorie.com</a>> writes:<br>
> The way this system is designed, yes, I need to save and revert. You<b=
r>
> need to ensure that the file is saved before running gsch2pcb<br>
> otherwise it won't know what he current elements are. And you need=
to<br>
> revert afterwards so that any removed elements vanish in PCB.<br>
<br>
I guess my question is "do you really need to run the obsolete gsch2pc=
b,<br>
instead of the new file->import that bypasses it and has much better<br>
functionality?"<br>
<br>
File->Import does not use gsch2pcb, it uses a different netlist filter<b=
r>
that lets you do in-place updates.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
class=3D"gmail-m_-5609281957204978865gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><b>=
Matt Jenkins</b><div>Majenko Technologies</div><div><br></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><b>Matt Jenkins</b><div>Majenko=
Technologies</div><div><br></div></div></div>
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