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Subject: Re: [geda-user] why pinnumber in sym pins?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 12:42:46 -0500
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> On Dec 26, 2017, at 12:03 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> It suffices to have only the minimum needed to describe what you want,
> if the netlister knows how to deal with that info ;-)
>=20
> simulators use pinseq
>=20

Slotting also uses pinseq. This overloading can cause problems.

In gnet-spice-noqsi there are several other ways to order pins. You can =
put pin numbers in a spice-prototype for package oriented ordering, or =
you can use pinlabel in a way that=E2=80=99s compatible with the way =
gnetlist flattens hierarchy. These things are very handy when you=E2=80=99=
re using the same schematic for layout and simulation.

> layout uses pinnumber
>=20
> I have a script that uses pinlabel to map to pinnumber depending on
> package

For big designs, what I really want is the ability to draw generic, =
abstract schematics and then forward annotate them into concrete, =
as-built schematics.

>=20
> etc
>=20

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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class=3D"">On Dec 26, 2017, at 12:03 PM, DJ Delorie &lt;<a =
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wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">It suffices to have only the minimum needed to =
describe what you want,<br class=3D"">if the netlister knows how to deal =
with that info ;-)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">simulators use pinseq<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>Slotting also uses pinseq. This overloading can cause =
problems.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>In gnet-spice-noqsi there =
are several other ways to order pins. You can put pin numbers in a =
spice-prototype for package oriented ordering, or you can use pinlabel =
in a way that=E2=80=99s compatible with the way gnetlist flattens =
hierarchy. These things are very handy when you=E2=80=99re using the =
same schematic for layout and simulation.</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">layout uses pinnumber<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have a =
script that uses pinlabel to map to pinnumber depending on<br =
class=3D"">package<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>For big designs, what I really want is the ability to =
draw generic, abstract schematics and then forward annotate them into =
concrete, as-built schematics.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
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