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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Recent gschem-PCB import problem?
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:56:09 -0700
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On Feb 15, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Peter Clifton =
(petercjclifton AT googlemail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] =
<geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

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> On 15 Feb 2017 22:14, "Roland Lutz" <rlutz AT hedmen DOT org> wrote
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> The pcbfwd backend works with the current version of gEDA/gaf, as =
should any other backend, shipped or not.  The breakage we talked about =
was related to a backend which required a patched gnetlist binary, =
something which should be avoided if possible.  I think that if there is =
any consequence from this, it is that we should more actively include =
contributed backends into the main gEDA/gaf repository and add them to =
the regular test suite.
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> The whole point of that backend is that it is shipped with pcb, and =
can be updated as pcb needs change from version to version.
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> It implicitly relies (of course), on the netlister API being =
relatively stable, which had in the past been long standing geda policy.
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> You'd need to go to Bert (pcb project lead) for the official answer, =
but I suspect out position here is "please don't" pull this particular =
netlist backend "upstream" to geda, since it lives in pcb.

I think it makes excellent sense to test gnetlist against every third =
party back end the developers can find. Distribution, on the other hand, =
is a separate issue, to be decided in individual cases.

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> Peter
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On Feb 15, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Peter =
Clifton (<a =
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m</a>) [via <a =
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type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra" =
dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 Feb 2017 22:14, =
"Roland Lutz" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rlutz AT hedmen DOT org">rlutz AT hedmen DOT org</a>&gt; =
wrote<blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
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The pcbfwd backend works with the current version of gEDA/gaf, as should =
any other backend, shipped or not.&nbsp; The breakage we talked about =
was related to a backend which required a patched gnetlist binary, =
something which should be avoided if possible.&nbsp; I think that if =
there is any consequence from this, it is that we should more actively =
include contributed backends into the main gEDA/gaf repository and add =
them to the regular test suite.<br></blockquote></div></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The whole point of that backend =
is that it is shipped with pcb, and can be updated as pcb needs change =
from version to version.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">It implicitly relies (of course), on the netlister API =
being relatively stable, which had in the past been long standing geda =
policy.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You'd need to =
go to Bert (pcb project lead) for the official answer, but I suspect out =
position here is "please don't" pull this particular netlist backend =
"upstream" to geda, since it lives in =
pcb.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I think it makes excellent =
sense to test gnetlist against every third party back end the developers =
can find. Distribution, on the other hand, is a separate issue, to be =
decided in individual cases.</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Peter</div><div=
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