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From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:22:27 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM2RGhQQo8_KAb2p4LqSrmSBKYM1hyeRdmzDn3XqeTjxdpFtKw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: [geda-user] We are about to alienate users was -> geda-gaf fork
To: gEDA users mailing list <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM, James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> FWIW, as a user and non-developer, having a name like geda-gschem or similar
> is going to be very confusing for the new users that I assume you're trying
> to attract.
>
> I'll also add, again as a user, that I made the commitment to try these
> tools (gaf and pcb, now pcb-rnd too) and to stick with it for some time.
> But the consistent negative tone of the conversations on this list is quite
> disheartening, to the point where it's hard for me to envision recommending
> the gschem+pcb path to colleagues.

James has a REALLY important point here. Let the fork happen and quit
arguing over which party renames their widget. It's just a rename,
that can be changed at any time. The harm this mudslinging is causing
to our shared cause of gEDA continuing.

I would like to point out that for gEDA to be healthy we need new
users and old ones. Adopting a CAD package (even a free one) is a bug
time investment in libraries and designs. No one is going to take a
chance on something if the people making it have this much vitriol
over a name or who changes their widgets name.

Just let it go. None of this is more important than loosing users.
-Evan

> James
>
>
> On 2/13/17 5:02 PM, Peter TB Brett (peter AT peter-b DOT co DOT uk) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 12, 2017 at 20:58 PM, Edward Hennessy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 12, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT
>>>> com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:52:29PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't mind, but obviously you'll have to name it something unique ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, of course. We're thinking about this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know -- I can help with a logo. Many of my friends are
>>> professional artists and graphic designers.
>>
>>
>> I think we're definitely open to suggestions.  So far:
>>
>> - gedafork
>> - pureeda
>> - geda-gschem
>> - gschem-ng
>> - gscheme
>> - geda-gscheme
>> - xornless
>>
>> There is definitely scope for innovation in this area.
>>
>>                                       Peter
>>
>
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> jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu
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