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On Dec 30, 2015, at 12:45 AM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
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> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
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>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:01 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, John Doty wrote:
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>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:02 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
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>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 9:44 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
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>>>>>>> Your current agenda:
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>>>>>>> 1. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN GEDA.
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>>>>>> And yet I have stated that I approve of Vladimir?s plans. So your =
understanding is faulty.
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>>>>> Of course they promise no changes to functionality
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>>>> If more of the code was in Scheme, scripting would have more =
access. We could stop arguing and make personalities for different flows =
more easily. If more of gnetlist was in Scheme, I?d have implemented bus =
netlisting by now. So yes, we?d get more functionality.
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>>> Not as long as scripting is limited to scheme.
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>> I said I?d have implemented it. I don?t have a problem with Scheme.
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>>> In theory anyone can learn scheme and use it happily ever after. In =
practice this just does not seem to happen.
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>> So, switch to Xorn as your foundation, or convince a Schemer to =
implement what you want.
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> Xorn is nice, but doesn't solve any of my initial problems.
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> Please remember the original problem: I needed a feature in gschem's =
GUI.
You *wanted* a schematic editor of fundamentally different design from =
gschem.
> As long as gschem is scriptable in scheme, as long as the only way to =
write an optional addon is to do it in scheme, xorn doesn't help with =
it.
Except that Roland intends Xorn as the foundation for a schematic =
editor, too.
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>>> The plugin approach is a good one. I was for it in PCB (I even =
requested -rdynamic in the old days to make plugins more generic). I =
implemented scirpting for PCB. I do think a lot of user stuff should =
happen in scripts. But I don't think restricting the choice of scripting =
language to 1 helps. Especially if that 1 is not one of the big =
currently-popular ones.
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>> The existing foundation for geda-gaf is based on Scheme. That?s an =
old decision that I had nothing to do with. I agree it was perhaps not =
the best decision. But I?m perfectly happy to exploit it, as others have =
been through the history of the project.
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> And others were unhappy. As this thread is partially about repeating =
ourselves, I'll repeat myself: scripting in gschem (or anything else) =
shouldn't restrict the user to use a single language. No matter what =
that language is.
Wouldn=92t you be perfectly happy with gschem scripted in Scheme if =
there was a different editor for ,sch files scripted in whatever you =
would prefer?
John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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