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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A fileformat library
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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On Dec 23, 2015, at 11:26 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

>=20
>> I think that having a file format that enables simple means to
>> achieve simple (but specialized) ends is essential to a good
>> toolkit.
>=20
> Any SQL implementation refutes that.  Nobody touches the SQL data file
> itself, they all go through a SQL interpreter that accesses the data
> on their behalf.  Specialized ends are implemented on top of this
> interpreter.

Except that the user needs to be comfortable with SQL. With our .sch =
format, users choose whatever language they are comfortable with from a =
long list: AWK, Python, Perl, =85

>=20
> Granted, this means we'd need a well-defined way to do pretty much
> anything through whatever means we provide, but saying "access to the
> file is required" is just plain wrong.  "Access to the data" is a more
> appropriate requirement, but making the data file tweakable is a weak
> solution to that - no controls, no validation, etc.

I want to liberate users, not control them. We have validation tools. =
The fact that it is sometimes necessary and correct to ignore their =
complaints demonstrates that the capabilities of the geda-gaf toolkit =
extend outside the bounds they define. I hope this will always be the =
case: geda-gaf=92s limitations will be in the minds of its users rather =
than in the minds of its developers.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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