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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin mapping (separate symbols from mappings)
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:20:14 -0600
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On Oct 20, 2015, at 10:34 AM, Edward Hennessy (ehennes AT sbcglobal DOT net) =
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> I would like to see the pin mapping also work for connectors.
>=20
> One mechanism I=92ve contemplated using: Instead of a symbol for a 20 =
pin connector, use a symbol for a terminal with 20 slots. Then, changing =
the slot number assigns the pin number. Unfortunately, all the terminals =
must have the refdes for the connector, such as J1. These refdes would =
need to be hidden

Why do they need to be hidden?

> and the refdes added to the dotted line grouping the terminals into a =
connector.

I=92ve done that, except for the dotted line. When I use this method, =
the pins are scattered about the schematics, close to the circuits they =
connect to. This saves a great tangle of nets.

The other way, my favorite these days for big connectors, is to use =
pins2gsch =
(http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/john_doty/tools/pins2gsch.html) to =
control the connections. The connector symbol itself is just a box with =
no pins (but I draw a bus to it). The nets are named connections to the =
bus, pin numbers are tabulated. The tables go into the LaTeX docs, =
easier to read and reducing clutter in the schematics.

Weirdly, some advocates of database-driven netlisting don=92t seem to =
like this approach. But since the implementation is entirely in add-on =
scripts, it is completely a matter of user choice.

I also would hold this up as an example of what one can do with =
well-factored software controlled to the user. Pins2gsch depends on the =
fact that gschem and gnetlist are separate, and that each models the =
information fundamental to its job, but not much else. If gnetlist was =
designed to prevent the user from doing crazy things, this probably =
wouldn=92t work. No developer imagined this as a feature, but the =
possibility was implicit in clean design.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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