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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:13:57 -0600
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On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:17 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
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>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
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>>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak =
<knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de> wrote:
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>>>>> In my humble opinion, this damages the project in
>>>>> the long run. It already has done so since about 15 years. We see =
the
>>>>> result in the number of active developers of back-ends.
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>>>> That=92s the =93development is a good thing=94 ideology. But in =
reality, it=92s only a good thing if it=92s a good thing. In the early =
days of gEDA, a variety of people wrote a variety of back ends. Is there =
much need for more? There=92s more scope for plugins that *modify* back =
end behavior, but we haven=92t really created that culture. On my todo =
list.
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>>> No this is the "long term project maintenance requires a modest
>>> developer base." Nothing in Kai-Martin's email said anything about
>>> development just the availability of warm bodies who can contribute
>>> something.
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>> But that hasn=92t been a problem.
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> Imagine a trend line over time for the data Kai-Martin was talking
> about and it will become apparent.

Why would I expect such a trend if an actual need were to emerge? There =
are enough Schemers around, but why should we fix what isn=92t broken?

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>>>> That said, I approve of new tools with new scripting languages and =
paradigms.
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>>> +1
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>>>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>>>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>>>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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>>> --
>>> Home
>>> http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/
>>> Work
>>> http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/
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>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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> --
> Home
> http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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