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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:32:36 -0600
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On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:06 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 9:46 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>> Yes and I have sided with you on that as I said before often in a
>>> minority of 2 or 3 people.
>>> Ultimately you have to trust people and the community or have your =
own
>>> fork. Although as the only person who is actively writing gnetlist
>>> backends you basically already have that.
>>=20
>> But what matters is who=92s using them. I have no idea how many, but =
people do ask questions about them occasionally, so I=92m not the only =
user.
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> If the users don't use this and it just sits there after a while we
> can redact it. No harm no foul.

I have schematics that still have promoted attributes that shouldn=92t =
have been promoted due to the change in the default, maybe 5 years ago. =
That still occasionally creates trouble.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda/+bug/1014160 caused me to release a =
broken design. I still hate the feature, but nothing will get in the way =
of developers who prefer clever to simple.

Subtle problems get released and cause harm before they=92re noticed. =
Definitely foul.

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> The closest this comes to having validity is the question will this
> addition break the gnetlist backends we already have. The answer is no
> assuming no one breaks the scheme interface.

Depends on whether you change the data the scheme interface returns. Do =
you know all of the implicit assumptions in all of the back ends? Of =
course, you don=92t, nobody does. I don=92t think it condescending to =
assume that you lack clairvoyance.


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>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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