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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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On Oct 13, 2015, at 8:56 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:47 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
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>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 8:29 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>>> No, I assume that you don't know what might break the tools.
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>>> Please don't assume the worst of people.
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>> I don=92t. I do assume that good people will make blunders. This is =
completely normal. I=92ve made enough of them. Minimizing the =
opportunities for blunders is important.
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> Yet you talk like it would doom the suite when in reality it could
> just be fixed.

Would it be? The current developer culture is so pcb-centric I have no =
confidence that anyone would care.

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> Old workflows using the flat nets already have userbase that gets
> priority in conflicts.

I=92m all for hierarchical netlisting. Maybe you should look at how =
gnet-spice-noqsi (https://github.com/noqsi/gnet-spice-noqsi) or Paul =
Tan=92s hierarchical Verilog netlisting approach (see his posts on this =
list from a few years ago) gets it done. No need for major surgical =
intervention.

> The new nets have no users and we can change
> them after an unstable release with out harming anyone's work. I
> thought that was the point of unstable releases, branches and etc.

It=92s even more the point of new tools and scripts.

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>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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