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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A lesson from gnet-makefile
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On Oct 13, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> We could prototype it via a plugin but in the long term it should
> really be in the core.

What advantage does that have? I see none.

> To be honest I find your "don't touch the core
> you will break something" attitude kind of insulting.

You shouldn=92t be insulted. It=92s like TeX: you don=92t touch the =
core, you put everything in style files. Geda-gaf isn=92t *that* well =
engineered, but it=92s pretty good: the burden of necessity of change =
should be high. =93If it ain=92t broke, don=92t fix it=94 is just good =
engineering.

Despite Peter Brett=92s great work, we simply don=92t have the tests =
necessary to insure that changes to the core don=92t affect somebody=92s =
flow. Geda-gaf can do all sorts of things (even generate makefiles ;-). =
Can you guarantee that you won=92t disturb this? I absolutely don=92t =
want a tool paralyzed by the interactions of added features.

I recall an attempt by a core developer to make SPICE netlisting better =
that broke slotting for layout. He shouldn=92t have put a SPICE-specific =
feature in the core: there were better ways to solve the problem. I =
would hope that our more mature project wouldn=92t release a blunder =
that bad, but more subtle problems cannot be excluded.

> I am not out to
> change how we have kept the concept of connections in libgeda and nets
> in gnetlist. I just want to mirror the flat net model that already
> exists in the core with a more nuanced and yet to be decided
> structure.

But the burden I=92d lay on you is to show that this *needs* to be in =
the core. If not, it doesn=92t belong there.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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