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On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:48 AM, John Griessen <john AT ecosensory DOT com> wrote:

> On 10/11/2015 02:39 AM, Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>
>> I just checked: I see no new applications in Launchpad.
>>
>> AFAICT, no bug team rejections either, just a total of three members who
>> left (AndyM, PeterB and Traumflug).
>>
>>
>> Any member of gEDAhead would want to have 1) as well.
>>
>>
>> I don't see the additional value of gEDAhead.
>>
>
> So, the low barrier of using gedahead also creates an extra site and login
> for the full admins to do
> as a chore.  And the rigor of gedahead users seems lower with no bug team
> applications, so gedahead tracker might
> just create more sifting to do, maybe even attract spam.
>
> I've seen a lot of inertia in this project, (and other FOSS projects), and
> it seems natural to me,
> yet Markus seems impatient with it.
> His manners towards me are lacking.  I'm not worried that he seems to have
> dropped gedahead.
>

Given that he as doing really quite nice work as integrator, plus
submitting lots of patches himself, I'm somewhat worried.  I wish the
stupid feud could end and Markus was most active at the moment at least so
driving him off seems like a poor solution.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:48 AM, John Griessen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:john AT ecosensory DOT com" target=3D"_blank">john AT ecosensory DOT com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On=
 10/11/2015 02:39 AM, Bert Timmerman (<a href=3D"mailto:bert DOT timmerman AT xs4a=
ll.nl" target=3D"_blank">bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl</a>) [via <a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I just checked: I see no new applications in Launchpad.<br>
<br>
AFAICT, no bug team rejections either, just a total of three members who le=
ft (AndyM, PeterB and Traumflug).<br>
<br>
<br>
Any member of gEDAhead would want to have 1) as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t see the additional value of gEDAhead.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
So, the low barrier of using gedahead also creates an extra site and login =
for the full admins to do<br>
as a chore.=C2=A0 And the rigor of gedahead users seems lower with no bug t=
eam applications, so gedahead tracker might<br>
just create more sifting to do, maybe even attract spam.<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve seen a lot of inertia in this project, (and other FOSS projects), =
and it seems natural to me,<br>
yet Markus seems impatient with it.<br>
His manners towards me are lacking.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not worried that he seems=
 to have dropped gedahead.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">G=
iven that he as doing really quite nice work as integrator, plus submitting=
 lots of patches himself, I&#39;m somewhat worried.=C2=A0 I wish the stupid=
 feud could end and Markus was most active at the moment at least so drivin=
g him off seems like a poor solution.=C2=A0</div></div><br></div></div>

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