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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stop playing stupid political games with gEDA
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 16:30:23 +0200 (CEST)
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"On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:36 AM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> I disagree with the developer mailing list being separate. In my
>> perception, this separation creates second class citizens.
>"



Do you think that user is second class citizen ? Clearly, one list for just 
developers where you can talk about internals and hidden stuff. Second list 
is for users to share user knowledge, answer user questions. But no need to 
talk about internal representations whatever. Of course developers can be in
both two lists. What is unclear on that difference ? I will be rather second
class citizen than to dig through tens of emails every day. People will 
leave such list with unnecessary developer info.





If you want "users" to commit patches then write the document about 
internals of gschem, pcb. Make schem and pcb simply buildable on both Linux 
and Windows. Without figthing with obscure guile package etc. And document 
it how to do that (last year I did not even succeed to cross compile PCB on 
Linux to play with GCode generator. I asked here and nobody helped how to 
build PCB. So I simply gave it up).




And hope that somebody will have spare time after work and growing kids.




Is it still unclear why moving developer conversation to dev-list is better 
?




You want more users, right ? Give them features, give them bugs fixed. No 
real user is interested in development chat.



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<html><body><br><blockquote>On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:36 AM, DJ Delorie 
&lt;dj AT delorie DOT com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I disagree with the 
developer mailing list being separate. In my<br>&gt;&gt; perception, this 
separation creates second class citizens.<br>&gt;</blockquote><p><br></p><p>Do
 you think that user is second class citizen ? Clearly, one list for just 
developers where you can talk about internals and hidden stuff. Second list is
 for users to share user knowledge, answer user questions. But no need to talk
 about internal representations whatever. Of course developers can be in both 
two lists. What is unclear on that difference ? I will be rather second class 
citizen than to dig through tens of emails every day. People will leave such 
list with unnecessary developer info.<br></p><p><br></p><p>If you want "users"
 to commit patches then write the document about internals of gschem, pcb. 
Make schem and pcb simply buildable on both Linux and Windows. Without 
figthing with obscure guile package etc. And document it how to do that (last 
year I did not even succeed to cross compile PCB on Linux to play with GCode 
generator. I asked here and nobody helped how to build PCB. So I simply gave 
it up).</p><p><br></p><p>And hope that somebody will have spare time after 
work and growing kids.</p><p><br></p><p>Is it still unclear why moving 
developer conversation to dev-list is better ?</p><p><br></p><p>You want more 
users, right ? Give them features, give them bugs fixed. No real user is 
interested in development chat.</p><p><br></p></body></html>
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