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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 23:41:23 +0300
From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] gEDA/gschem still alive?
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On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 12:45:44PM -0400, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
...
> > I think other way round. For me, interpreted languages are preferable.
> > BTW, Stefan Salewski (who started this flame :)) has often claimed
> > that if we'd use an interpreted language, the development of gEDA would
> > be quicker.
> >
> > It's frustrating for me that the core functionality of libgeda/gschem is
> > written in C (e.g. reading and writing of files) which makes it
> > unmaintainable (see, for example, what bugs are marked as critical at
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/geda) for a long time. I believe, it would be
> > easier to fix them if the geda-gaf language was really Guile/Scheme.
> 
> I do not agree.
> 1. Scheme as a language falling in developer base. Even if you wanted
> a different language from C it really is not the best choice right
> now. (please see our other thread)
:)

> 2. Does compiling before execution really slow development that much?
> If you are iterating that rapidly then something else is kind of
> dubious.
What is this about? Guile DOES compile its programs now.
Compiling of C slows writing of extensions. Do you prefer to write
extensions in C and propose the geda users to always work with C
sources? 

> 3. For small throw away plugins interprited languages make sense but
> for exectution time I prefer the speed of trade off we have now.
I don't understand this sentence, sorry. Could you please elaborate some
more?

...
> If I could I would limit our language choices for the core of gEDA and
> PCB but I have 0 authority.
Probably, we have to discuss language limiting. For me, 2-3 languages
would be enough :) I'm not certain of your authority. Who can prohibit
us to discuss this here?

...
> > I believe real coding is the way to go.
> 
> Was someone doing fictional coding? (ok now I am being snarky)
I'm about this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/geda-user AT moria DOT seul DOT org/msg30998.html

> 
> > For language bindings, gobject libraries already used in geda-gaf would
> > be helpful. I didn't hear about any comparable libraries yet.
> 
> If we had better documentation you could implement that.
Better documentation for what?

Cheers,
  Vladimir

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