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On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 01:42:22PM -0400, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> On 07/07/2015 12:52 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
> > For languages we have luckily many really fine ones now. I already told
> > you that I will mostly concentrate on Nim for the near future. It is not
> > much more difficult that Python, covers the whole range from low level
> > kernel and bare metal development up to what is generally done with
> > Python/Ruby/Java. And it is fast as C. But of course many other
> > languages like Rust, Go, Crystal would be fine for EDA development too
> > -- for me Rust seems to be more difficult.
> 
>   This sets off some alarm bells for me.  I'm a professional developer;
> I write code every day and I like to stay on top of new research, and
> I've never even heard of most of the languages you mentioned here.  I've
> heard of Go, and Python, Ruby, and Java, of course, but Nim?  Crystal?
> Rust?

I'm also a professional developer and know many other professional
developers.  I also know other developers who are not professional
(sorry, could not resist).

We've all heard about the languages mentioned above.  Rust seems
to have a particular hype today, and I would say not without
merit.  Anyone used to C and C++ should check it out.

That said, I don't think neither of those is really an option for
next-gen libgeda.

>   If I've never heard of them, I'm willing to bet that many other
> potential contributors haven't either.

I'm willing to bet that you'd lose the bet.

Just because you haven't heard of them does not mean that the
rest of the world hasn't.

>   Locking development into somoene's pet language that will likely
> disappear into (further) obscurity in a year or two is not the way to
> ensure the longevity of a software project.  

I completely agree.  Though I have to point out that it all depends
on the likelihood of "disappearing into obscurity".  I predict that
not all of them will be extinct ten, or twenty years from now.

>   And further (and I apologize if it sounds like I'm picking on you
> here), rabid proponents of dozens of "pet" programming languages have
> claimed them to be "as fast as C!!" for decades.  I didn't believe it
> then, and I don't believe it now.

You do not need to believe anyone.  Measure.  Evaluate.  Then draw
conclusions.

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