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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:25:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Cirilo Bernardo (cirilo_bernardo AT yahoo DOT com)" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Re: [geda-user] Any news about FOSS EDA
coordination? Import/export, common file format
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Sharing a common format will indeed be possible but we would need people to

study what can be shared. At the moment for example KiCad supports 32
copper layers and 32 technical layers; mapping copper layers is easy
provided both software packages can support the same number of layers but
the mapping of the technical layers requires more coordination.
For drawing outlines KiCad only has circular arc and line segments;
there is currently no support for ellipses and such though I imagine
in the future some people may demand a few curve types which are
also supported by MCAD software, particularly Polynomial Curves and
NURBS. KiCad has no pad stack though some people say they will try to
find time to implement it.  These are just a small portion of issues
which need to be addressed when communicating data between different
software. 

- Cirilo

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>Subject: [kicad-users] Re: [geda-user] Any news about FOSS EDA coordination? Import/export, common file format
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>Oh, the idea looked promising...
>So what about kicad and geda supporting both formats at least? What about sharing the same library? :)
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>On Jun 11, 2015 5:27 PM, "Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com)" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:29 PM, timofonic timofonic (timofonic AT gmail DOT com) <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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>>What's wrong with IP-XACT?
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>>It was created by the spirit consortium that was made up from engineers from eda tool vendors, IP houses and Si vendors. Correct me if I am wrong but I don't think that they had anyone on the committe who's day job  actually involved designing IC's.  The biggest complaint is that to use it you have to use vendorExtensions to do anything useful and once you add that you have the same old problem that EDIF had with each vendor having their own "flavor" of IP-Xact. 
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>>My biggest grip was that they don't support design variants that are critical in IC design. They support parameters but parameters cannot change a port list or a file list. If your
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>>design variant needs to change either of those then you are out of luck.
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>>IP-Xact has seen some adoption as a way to describe register bits with tools that read an IP-Xact component file to generate the RTL,documentation and head files for those registers. But it is capable of doing a lot more than that.
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>>I see IP-Xact as a case of pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.  It has some really great features that are usefull. For example if you add one IP-Xact file into your IP repository then that will provide  a unique identifier for your IP. No other repo in the world will have that same id, no more naming collisions.
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>>IP-Xact is a packaging standard that does not tell you how to package anything at all. They knew that nobody was going to adopt it if they had change anything in their legacy IP so that all you have to do is to add an IP-Xact file anywhere in your legacy repos and they will be IP-Xact compliant.
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>>John Eaton
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