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Very true! But that doesn't address Enoch's main proposal, which is that =
"geda needs to adapt to this new trend" [collaborative schematic capture =
and PCB layout] by developing [SCM] capabilities at the schematic =
abstraction level, not the text string level.
Indeed, if the desired model is really multiple designers simultaneously =
editing the same schematic page, some clever rethinking about SCM is =
needed. But I don't believe that anyone really wants to work that way, =
and I'm sceptical about upverter's ability to cleanly support it. In my =
experience, collaborative design always means different designers =
working on different parts of the design. And SCM tools like git and svn =
do a good job of supporting that working model.
Now, what upverter does offer is a very large component library and =
handy graphical tools to simplify footprint and symbol creation, and =
tight integration between the schematic capture and PCB layout tools.
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Roger Williams <roger AT qux DOT com>
Chief Technical Officer, Qux Corporation
245 Russell Street, Hadley, MA 01035, USA
Tel +1 508 287-1420 * Fax +1 508 302-0230
On 16 Oct 2014, at 12:56, Ouabache Designworks <z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com> =
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Enoch <ixew AT hotmail DOT com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> How do people here feel about collaboration tools such as:
> https://upverter.com/
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> It is being promoted even by the Open Hardware "BeagleBone Black"
> project: http://beagleboard.org/black (see "Fork me on Upverter").
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> It seems to me that geda needs to adapt to this new trend,
> somehow... that is, develop "git" like capabilities at the abstraction
> level of the shcematics (not at the primitive sch source lines level).
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> Adapt or Die :-)
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> Thanks, Enoch.
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> 1) It costs $$$$$
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> 2) You don`t buy it , you rent it. If the company fails then the tool =
stops working.
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> 3) You can import from several formats but no mention of export. =
Welcome to the Hotel California.
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> 4) If that company dies then they take all of your current and past =
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> Its all about the data. You must never lose access to any past design =
work that you have done
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> John Eaton
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Very =
true! But that doesn't address Enoch's main proposal, which is that =
"geda needs to adapt to this new trend" [collaborative schematic capture =
and PCB layout] by developing [SCM] capabilities at the schematic =
abstraction level, not the text string level.<div><br></div><div>Indeed, =
if the desired model is really multiple =
designers <i>simultaneously</i> editing the same schematic page, =
some clever rethinking about SCM is needed. But I don't believe that =
anyone really wants to work that way, and I'm sceptical about upverter's =
ability to cleanly support it. In my experience, collaborative design =
always means different designers working on different parts of the =
design. And SCM tools like git and svn do a good job of supporting that =
working model.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, what upverter <i>does</i> =
offer is a very large component library and handy graphical tools to =
simplify footprint and symbol creation, and tight integration between =
the schematic capture and PCB layout tools.<br><div><br><div><div>
<div>-- <br>Roger Williams <<a =
href=3D"mailto:roger AT qux DOT com">roger AT qux DOT com</a>><br>Chief Technical =
Officer, Qux Corporation<br>245 Russell Street, Hadley, MA 01035, =
USA<br>Tel +1 508 287-1420 * Fax +1 508 302-0230</div>
</div>
<br><div><div>On 16 Oct 2014, at 12:56, Ouabache Designworks <<a =
href=3D"mailto:z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com">z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Enoch <span =
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ixew AT hotmail DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">ixew AT hotmail DOT com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br>
</span>Hi,<br>
<br>
How do people here feel about collaboration tools such as:<br>
<a href=3D"https://upverter.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://upverter.com/</a><br>
<br>
It is being promoted even by the Open Hardware "BeagleBone Black"<br>
project: <a href=3D"http://beagleboard.org/black" =
target=3D"_blank">http://beagleboard.org/black</a> (see "Fork me on =
Upverter").<br>
<br>
It seems to me that geda needs to adapt to this new trend,<br>
somehow... that is, develop "git" like capabilities at the =
abstraction<br>
level of the shcematics (not at the primitive sch source lines =
level).<br>
<br>
Adapt or Die :-)<br>
<br>
Thanks, Enoch.<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>1) It costs =
$$$$$<br><br></div><div>2) You don`t buy it , you rent it. If the =
company fails then the tool stops working.<br><br></div><div>3) You can =
import from several formats but no mention of export. Welcome to the =
Hotel California.<br><br></div><div>4) If that company dies then they =
take all of your current and past work with them.<br><br></div><div>Its =
all about the data. You must never lose access to any past design work =
that you have done<br><br><br></div><div>John =
Eaton<br><br><br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br> </div></div><br><=
/div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>=
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