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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Hello All.</div>=9A=9A For better understandindi=
ng of my idea, I attached this patch (lib_seq.patch) illustrating of this.=
<br><br></div><div>=9A=9A Patched gschem will be create "library secti=
on" in .sch file. In this section will be placed symbols, which are us=
ed in it.<br>
</div><div>=9A=9A After .sch file was opened, missing symbols will be place=
d
in "library section" from standart library or local lybrary, inc=
luded=20
in gafrc.<br></div><div>=9A=9A After add component ("i"), if addi=
ng symbol (that is content of one) are absent in "library section"=
; of .sch file, <span lang=3D"en"><span>it will be added.<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>=9A=9A If name of adding s=
ymbol is exist in </span></span>"library section, but content of symbo=
l differs, symbol will be added with another name.<br>
</div><div>For example:<br></div><div>In "library section" exists=
symbol "opamp-dual.sym" with Content1.<br></div><div>I add symbo=
l "opamp-dual.sym" by "i" and it have Content2 !=3D Con=
tent1.<br>
</div><div>At result symbol "opamp-dual.sym0" was added to "=
library section" with Content2.<br></div><div>Next names will be "=
;opamp-dual.sym1" and so on by increment.<br><br>---------------------=
-----------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br></div><div>The problem occurs because you instantiated=9A the opamp-dua=
l component=9A from the GEDA analog library and then later want to add<br><=
/div><div>a different opamp-dual from some other vendors library. The reas=
on that it occurs is because you did not store the vendors name or library =
name<br>
</div><div>where you found it. If we add that information to the .sch then =
you will be able to tell it apart from all of the other components with the=
same name.<br><br></div><div>And while we are at it we should also add fie=
lds for revision and variant. They will come in handy.<br>
<br><br></div><div>John Eaton<br><br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br>=
<br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">2014-03-07 15:25 GMT-08:00 =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E8=C1=D2=D8=CB=CF=
=D7=D3=CB=C9=CA <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:svetonomer AT gmail DOT co=
m" target=3D"_blank">svetonomer AT gmail DOT com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>He=
llo All.</div>=9A=9A For better understandinding of my idea, I attached th=
is patch (lib_seq.patch) illustrating of this.<br>
<br></div><div>=9A=9A Patched gschem will be create "library section&q=
uot; in .sch file. In this section will be placed symbols, which are used i=
n it.<br>
</div><div>=9A=9A After .sch file was opened, missing symbols will be place=
d in "library section" from standart library or local lybrary, in=
cluded in gafrc.<br></div><div>=9A=9A After add component ("i"), =
if adding symbol (that is content of one) are absent in "library secti=
on" of .sch file, <span lang=3D"en"><span>it will be added.<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>=9A=9A If name of adding s=
ymbol is exist in </span></span>"library section, but content of symbo=
l differs, symbol will be added with another name.<br>
</div><div>For example:<br></div><div>In "library section" exists=
symbol "opamp-dual.sym" with Content1.<br></div><div>I add symbo=
l "opamp-dual.sym" by "i" and it have Content2 !=3D Con=
tent1.<br>
</div><div>At result symbol "opamp-dual.sym0" was added to "=
library section" with Content2.<br></div><div>Next names will be "=
;opamp-dual.sym1" and so on by increment.<br></div><div><br></div>
<div>Example of similar file is attached as test.sch.<br></div><div><br></=
div><div>After program patched, complete including CVS repository of gedasy=
mbols is possible.<br></div><div>And .sch file after reopen will not be dam=
aged.<br>
<span lang=3D"en"><span>Also,</span> <span>now</span> <span>you can wear</s=
pan> <span>the sch file</span> <span>on the flash</span> drive to you </spa=
n><span lang=3D"en"><span lang=3D"en"><span>supervisor</span></span> <span=
>for</span> <span>his show</span> <span>and do not afraid</span> <span>to f=
orget</span> <span>write</span> to flash <span>all symbols</span> <span>tha=
t are not in</span> <span>the local</span> <span>library of his</span> <spa=
n>computer.</span></span>=9A :-)<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>This realization</span> <=
span>of my idea</span> <span>is not ideal</span><span>.<br></span></span></=
div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>It have some problem:<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>1. A</span></span><span la=
ng=3D"en"><span><span lang=3D"en"><span>t present c</span></span>ontent of =
symbols comparing as strings, but best case object-like comparing.<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang=3D"en"><span>2. "Force update"=
; mechanism for change symbol is absent.<br></span></span></div><div><span =
lang=3D"en"><span>3. Not available Hierarchy->Down Symbol for symbols on=
ly in </span></span>"library section" for editing.<br>
</div><div>4. <span lang=3D"en"><span>Not available insert symbols which is=
in </span></span>"library section" only by pressing "i"=
;. Available only copiyng by pressing "ec".<br>
</div><div>5. May be <span lang=3D"en"><span>something else.<br></span></sp=
an><span lang=3D"en"><span><br></span></span><span lang=3D"en"><span>If the=
community</span> <span>geda-user</span> <span>confirmed</span> <span>of my=
idea</span><span>, I will</span> <span>try to</span> <span>resolve</span> =
<span>these drawbacks</span><span>.</span></span><br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=E4=CC=D1 =CC=D5=DE=DB=C5=C7=CF =
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<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-01-29 11:25 GMT+04:00 Vladimir Zhba=
nov <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:11:10PM +0100, <a href=3D"mailto:karl AT aspodata DOT s=
e" target=3D"_blank">karl AT aspodata DOT se</a> wrote:<br>
...<br>
<div>> I don't know how to embed used symbols after-the-fact, perhap=
s<br>
> someone else knows.<br>
</div>The gschlas utility is just for such cases.<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
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