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From: karl AT aspodata DOT se
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Subject: Universial data model (was Re: [geda-user] Pin length stretch for schematics symbols useful?)
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Peter Stuge:
> karl AT aspodata DOT se wrote:
> > Think of, just one symbol.
> 
> Creating a universal data model for parts is indeed key for free and
> open source EDA software to have any kind of significant impact in
> the world.

I was mostly thinking about the graphics, but yes, one can extend it to
other dimensions also.

...
> It is also not a task that neccessarily has anything to do with
> existing EDA suites, beyond that the data model must of course not
> repeat any mistakes that have already been made in existing programs.

I don't have much experiences with eda suites, is there a list 
somewhere of the mistakes, or can we make such a list, so we can avoid 
them ?

> The data model exists between EDA suites, fabs and part vendors.
> (User requirements flow from EDA suit and/or fab.)
>
> The model must encompass every real-world characteristic of parts
> which EDA suites and fabs care about today, and ideally also be
> future-proof enough that the same model can be extended, as EDA
> suites and fabs learn to make use of even more part characteristics
> in the future.
> 
> The project as I see it would have as deliverables a specification
> document and a portable C library implementing the specification.
> 
> I'd suggest a permissive license such as MIT for the implementation,
> so that the door is open for closed source EDA suites and fab tools
> to use the library later on, thus giving the project a chance to
> eliminate the ridiculous exclusivity of parts within single EDA suite
> vendors, and allow for somehow sensible integration across the full
> design and production cycle.

I'd be fine with lgpl.

> Anyone else interested in this?

Is this the thin/thick symbol discussion again ?

Previous such discussions didn't bear fruit, how can we make it
happen this time ?

What are people using now, what common threads of thoughts can we
find in different solutions ?

And yes, the thin thing must be supported.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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