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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Stefan Salewski wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 15:57 -0500, Dave McGuire wrote:
>> On 01/13/2014 11:55 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
>>> I think you are one of the persons who have really used PCB program in
>>> the last 4 years (I did not, maybe DJ did) -- have you ever noticed the
>>> polygon bug reported some days ago by Gabriel Paubert? There seems to be
>>> no reply from other people, so my impression that no one is using PCB
>>> currently is supported unfortunately. I myself have no idea about
>>> polygon handling and gerber generation, it was my assumption that that
>>> was working correctly. Yesterday I found a problem report related to
>>> polygon dicer from 2008
>>> http://t14292.cad-geda-development.cadtalk.us/yet-another-dicer-bug-t14292.html
>>
>>   I've gotta jump in on this topic.  I've produced about thirty
>> commercial boards in the past 2.5 years with PCB, nearly all of which
>> have at least a few QFPs on them.  I have not, at least to my knowledge,
>> run into this bug.
>>
>>                -Dave
>>
>
> Good to hear that a few people are still using PCB, some even for
> commercial boards. Personally I do not really care about if someone ever
> may use my router, but as the project is on my homepage, someone may ask
> me: Why do you work on a router for a program that absolutely no one is
> using any more. Now I can point that people to this thread ;-)

I am using (a fork of) PCB as well; if that counts as commercial, I've 
recently finished populating about 20 smallish boards for an internal 
development at the company I work for. All went fine, gerbers to the fab 
house with some comments, they didn't have questions, the boards came back 
perfectly.

I still like that it's not integrated with gschem or simulation, I like 
that I can use Makefiles, the file format is relatively easy to edit 
with scripts and is friendly to svn. Despite I find most GUI programs 
annoying, PCB (gtk HID) is one of the few exceptions I could get used to.

There are some guys at the company who'd like to switch from 
proprietary/demo EDA tools to something better, plus an in-house 
training program lately. There has been some interest in a gschem+PCB 
course already, and now that more people see the internal development 
projects (the boards, the system being installed) there's even more 
interest. Probably there'd be a few new PCB users by the next semester.

Regards,

Tibor

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