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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Announcing QCamber: a PCB viewer alternative
From: Wei-Ning Huang <aitjcize AT gmail DOT com>
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Hi Stefan,

I like GTK on my desktop too, but considering the portability between
different platforms, I think Qt has far better support for windows then
GTK. Although it is possible to cross compile gtk applications on windows,
there are A LOT of bugs. I actually did it once when I tried to compile
another project of mine(Gummi LaTeX Editor) to Windows, its just ...bah.
I'll definitely checkout your pcb routing application. I already see that
it's written in GTK3 :P
Also about the Geber support: It's already in my roadmap, and I think it
would be quite easy considering gerber's format is much simpler than ODB++.
I'll start implement it if I have time.

Best,
Wei-Ning


2013/11/27 Stefan Salewski <mail AT ssalewski DOT de>

> On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 01:19 +0800, Wei-Ning Huang wrote:
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > Yes, it is written in C++ and with QGraphicsView. I did some hack to
> > workaround QGraphcisView's bugs and it's low efficiency...
>
> That is interesting. I myself, and most gEDA people, are using GTK. But
> I know that today many people enjoy Qt more -- the reason is not always
> clear. For GTK we have something similar like QGraphicsView -- Clutter.
> I have considered using one of them, but was not really convinced, I
> found no great example projects. So for my experimental schematics tool
> (http://www.ssalewski.de/PetEd.html.en) I used plain cairo drawing. I
> will investigate your program when I have some more free time --
> currently I am still very busy -- one of my current open source projects
> is my PCB router (http://www.ssalewski.de/Router.html.en), which works
> not bad so far, so I really should finish it...
>
> > You can look at this
> > thread<
> http://www.odb-sa.com/community/topic/how-can-i-get-hold-of-the-odb-format-specification/
> >on
> > how to get ODB++ specifications, and for the IPC2851 format you can
> > get
> > the specification on their
> > website<http://www.ipc-2581.com/index.php/ipc-2581-standard-files>.
> > I think both format are well supported in China fabs. ODB++ is an old
> > format so think most of the fab support it.
> >
> Thanks for the links. I think here in Germany most fab houses still only
> use gerber files -- at least that was the case four years ago. Maybe it
> already changed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stefan Salewski
>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Stefan,<div><br></div><div>I like GTK on my desktop too=
, but considering the portability between different platforms, I think Qt h=
as far better support for windows then GTK. Although it is possible to cros=
s compile gtk applications on windows, there are A LOT of bugs. I actually =
did it once when I tried to compile another project of mine(Gummi LaTeX Edi=
tor) to Windows, its just ...bah. I&#39;ll definitely checkout your pcb rou=
ting application. I already see that it&#39;s written in GTK3 :P</div>
<div>Also about the Geber support: It&#39;s already in my roadmap, and I th=
ink it would be quite easy considering gerber&#39;s format is much simpler =
than ODB++. I&#39;ll start implement it if I have time.</div><div><br></div=
>
<div>Best,</div><div>Wei-Ning</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">2013/11/27 Stefan Salewski <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mail AT ssalewski DOT de" target=3D"_blank">mail AT ssalewski DOT de</a>&gt=
;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 01:1=
9 +0800, Wei-Ning Huang wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Stefan,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, it is written in C++ and with QGraphicsView. I did some hack to<b=
r>
&gt; workaround QGraphcisView&#39;s bugs and it&#39;s low efficiency...<br>
<br>
</div>That is interesting. I myself, and most gEDA people, are using GTK. B=
ut<br>
I know that today many people enjoy Qt more -- the reason is not always<br>
clear. For GTK we have something similar like QGraphicsView -- Clutter.<br>
I have considered using one of them, but was not really convinced, I<br>
found no great example projects. So for my experimental schematics tool<br>
(<a href=3D"http://www.ssalewski.de/PetEd.html.en" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.ssalewski.de/PetEd.html.en</a>) I used plain cairo drawing. I<br>
will investigate your program when I have some more free time --<br>
currently I am still very busy -- one of my current open source projects<br=
>
is my PCB router (<a href=3D"http://www.ssalewski.de/Router.html.en" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ssalewski.de/Router.html.en</a>), which works<br>
not bad so far, so I really should finish it...<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; You can look at this<br>
</div>&gt; thread&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.odb-sa.com/community/topic/how-c=
an-i-get-hold-of-the-odb-format-specification/" target=3D"_blank">http://ww=
w.odb-sa.com/community/topic/how-can-i-get-hold-of-the-odb-format-specifica=
tion/</a>&gt;on<br>

<div class=3D"im">&gt; how to get ODB++ specifications, and for the IPC2851=
 format you can<br>
&gt; get<br>
&gt; the specification on their<br>
</div>&gt; website&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.ipc-2581.com/index.php/ipc-2581=
-standard-files" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ipc-2581.com/index.php/ipc-25=
81-standard-files</a>&gt;.<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; I think both format are well supported in China fabs=
. ODB++ is an old<br>
&gt; format so think most of the fab support it.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div>Thanks for the links. I think here in Germany most fab houses still o=
nly<br>
use gerber files -- at least that was the case four years ago. Maybe it<br>
already changed.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Stefan Salewski<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small">Embedded System and W=
ireless Networking Lab,<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:=
small">
<div>Department of Computer Science and Information Engineering,</div><div>=
National Taiwan University<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cell: +886 910 380 =
678<br></div><div>Personal Website: <a href=3D"http://azhuang.me" target=3D=
"_blank">http://azhuang.me</a></div>
</div></div>
</div></div>

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