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Date:	Mon, 10 Dec 2012 10:13:40 +0100
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines
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+1

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Markus Hitter <mah AT jump-ing DOT de> wrote:

>
> Am 09.12.2012 um 16:49 schrieb Kai-Martin Knaak:
>
>  gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu schrieb am  9. December 2012:
>>
>>  However, if we rephase the question from "what causes the short" to
>>> "what user modification introduced the short"
>>>
>>
>> +1. I tend to resolve difficult shorts by simply going back in the
>> history until update nets does not complain anymore.
>>
>> Protel99 avoids this by a different approach: This EDA checks after
>> every edit for shorts. So the user is notified immediately that an edit
>> causes a violation.
>>
>
> Do you guys never import a bunch of new or renamed components with
> (x)gschem2pcb? In that case neither of these approaches is helpful, you
> start with a big mess and there is no previous unshorted state.
>
> When I actually need the behaviour described above, I open the log window
> and hit O after about every change. Shorts can be seen at a glance, they
> produce more text that just a "x ratlines remaining".
>
>
> my $0.02
>
> Markus
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter
> http://www.jump-ing.de/
>
>
>
>
>
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+1<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Marku=
s Hitter <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mah AT jump-ing DOT de" target=3D=
"_blank">mah AT jump-ing DOT de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
<br>
Am 09.12.2012 um 16:49 schrieb Kai-Martin Knaak:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">
<a href=3D"mailto:gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" target=3D"_blank">gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT h=
u</a> schrieb am =A09. December 2012:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
However, if we rephase the question from &quot;what causes the short&quot; =
to<br>
&quot;what user modification introduced the short&quot;<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div><div class=3D"im">
+1. I tend to resolve difficult shorts by simply going back in the<br>
history until update nets does not complain anymore.<br>
<br>
Protel99 avoids this by a different approach: This EDA checks after<br>
every edit for shorts. So the user is notified immediately that an edit<br>
causes a violation.<br>
</div></blockquote>
<br>
Do you guys never import a bunch of new or renamed components with (x)gsche=
m2pcb? In that case neither of these approaches is helpful, you start with =
a big mess and there is no previous unshorted state.<br>
<br>
When I actually need the behaviour described above, I open the log window a=
nd hit O after about every change. Shorts can be seen at a glance, they pro=
duce more text that just a &quot;x ratlines remaining&quot;.<br>
<br>
<br>
my $0.02<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Markus<br>
<br>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br>
Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.jump-ing.de/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.jump-ing.d=
e/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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