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Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:29:22 +0100
From: Jan Kasprzak <kas AT fi DOT muni DOT cz>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was:
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Edward Hennessy wrote:
: All,
: 
: What about reopening a public developers list?
: 
: - Anyone can join
: - Anyone can post ideas
: - Anyone can post patches
: - Skilled developers invited to git access
: - Junior developers mentored

	As a newcomer to geda, I don't think it is a great idea. You would
end up with users list nobody sufficiently skilled reads, and with devel
list with occasional end-user questions.

	Again, as a newcomer, I find the documentation of geda to be
one of the weakest points. For example, when you search for "geda" in Google,
it takes you to www.gpleda.org, which describes more different tools.
For gEDA, there are eight(!) web sites linked from there, two mailing lists,
and seven download links. For a newcomer, it is not bearable.

	When I asked the original question of this thread (about pin hole
sizes), one of the replies mentioned a PDF document about footprint symbols
hosted somewhere outside geda-project.org. The documentation is really
scattered over many sites.

	The main page of www.geda-project.org is focused on different
things than a newcomer, or even an experienced user, wants to see there.
Nobody is interested why the project has been started (at least not in the
main page), nobody goes there looking for a link to Open Collector.
Other interesting things, like download links or a git repository,
are not even mentioned there.

	I would expect to have the following main points to be made
in the home page:

- gEDA is a loosely-coupled collection of tools
- Start with _gschem_ if you want to design your own  schematics (_tutorial_)
- Use _pcb_ (and maybe _gsch2pcb_) to design your board (_tutorial_)
- download the source code _here_, browse the git repository _here_
	(maybe even "download binaries for other OSes _here_").
- read the _documentation_ and _FAQ_ in the wiki

	BTW, something is wrong with geda-project.org nameservers
or DNS registration - the domain currently does not resolve from here:

$ host -t ns org.
org name server d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org name server a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org name server c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org name server b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org name server b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
org name server a2.org.afilias-nst.info.
$ host -t any geda-project.org. d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
Using domain server:
Name: d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
Address: 2001:500:f::1#53
Aliases: 

geda-project.org has no ANY record

-Yenya

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