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Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:59:58 -0400
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire AT neurotica DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was:
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On 10/29/2012 02:44 PM, John Doty wrote:
>> I'd say TeX is pretty popular.  The drooling masses don't use it,
>> but who cares?
> 
> Exactly the point. TeX is much less popular than Word. But making TeX
> more like Word would damage it severely.

  Can't argue with that.  But it seems to me like you keep pounding
about people wanting to dumb down the tools and remove functionality,
but that's not what people are talking about doing.

  I agree with your assertion that, if your use case isn't specifically
kept in mind by the people doing the development that they might miss
something and break something that you need.  This is an unfortunate
possibility in ALL software.  At least in this case, you yourself can be
involved in the development, at least peripherally, to ensure that this
does not happen.

  At some point, complaining about potential badness becomes complaining
for the sake of complaining.  We are dangerously close to that line here.

  It's clear that we need more development in both packages.  It's too
bad for all of us that the primary drivers of previous development have
gotten busy on other things...for years I've touted gEDA/PCB as being
two of the most actively-developed packages I've ever seen.  That's not
the case anymore.  This is just an unfortunate fact.  The projects NEED
to have some time spent on them.  Constant resistance to any potential
change, and no suggestions other than "scrap it and rewrite it all" are
doing nothing but putting a damper on things here.

  I could easily say a lot more, but I like and respect you, and I don't
want to sound like I'm attacking you.

              -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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