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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:08:42 +0100
From: Ed Simmons <ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Soldering problems
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On 16/07/12 19:41, Rob Butts wrote:
> Thanks Ed!
> That is exactly what is happening.
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Ed Simmons <ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk 
> <mailto:ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk>> wrote:
>
>
>     We had this issue when using the damp sponge to clean the iron.
>     Switching to a brass spiral cleaner helped keep the iron clean,
>     and when it gets really dull and refuses to re-tin, use something
>     like this:
>     http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-iron-tips-accessories/0226287/
>     - this brings up a good-as-new shine on the bit.
>
>     Hope that helps.
>
>     Ed
>
>

No worries - please make sure you've got good fume extraction - it's nasty!

Are you using no-clean flux? It's really difficult to deal with since 
most no-clean flux contains a plasticiser to halt any reaction from the 
small remaining amount of possibly active flux after it's been through a 
soldering cycle. This gets all over the bit of the iron and quenching 
the heat out of the bit with a sponge only makes it stick on harder. 
Reworking reflowed boards is such a pain (not to mention ugly and 
obvious) we're switching to water soluble fluxes so that we can actually 
clean it at the end. Such are the trials of short-run electronics. :-|

If it spits while you feed the solder into the joints, the iron is 
probably a bit too hot, but this is hard to avoid without preheating the 
whole PCB until it's really toasty. On multilayer boards with pins 
connected to the ground-plane this is almost essential in order to be 
able to solder at anywhere near the correct temperature.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/07/12 19:41, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
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      <div>Thanks Ed!</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>That is exactly what is happening.<br>
        <br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Ed
        Simmons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk" target="_blank">ed AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          We had this issue when using the damp sponge to clean the
          iron. Switching to a brass spiral cleaner helped keep the iron
          clean, and when it gets really dull and refuses to re-tin, use
          something like this: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-iron-tips-accessories/0226287/"
            target="_blank">http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-iron-tips-accessories/0226287/</a>
          - this brings up a good-as-new shine on the bit.<br>
          <br>
          Hope that helps.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
              <br>
              Ed<br>
              <br>
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    <br>
    No worries - please make sure you've got good fume extraction - it's
    nasty!<br>
    <br>
    Are you using no-clean flux? It's really difficult to deal with
    since most no-clean flux contains a plasticiser to halt any reaction
    from the small remaining amount of possibly active flux after it's
    been through a soldering cycle. This gets all over the bit of the
    iron and quenching the heat out of the bit with a sponge only makes
    it stick on harder. Reworking reflowed boards is such a pain (not to
    mention ugly and obvious) we're switching to water soluble fluxes so
    that we can actually clean it at the end. Such are the trials of
    short-run electronics. :-|<br>
    <br>
    If it spits while you feed the solder into the joints, the iron is
    probably a bit too hot, but this is hard to avoid without preheating
    the whole PCB until it's really toasty. On multilayer boards with
    pins connected to the ground-plane this is almost essential in order
    to be able to solder at anywhere near the correct temperature.<br>
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