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From:	"Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date:	Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:58:44 +1030
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] is geda dead yet?
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pcb-rnd retains the original autorouter from gEDA PCB, has an external
toporouter route-rnd ( http://www.repo.hu/projects/route-rnd/ ), and
can utilise freerouting ( https://github.com/freerouting/ ) as a
standalone application (much like kicad does) or more seamlessly, can
utilise freerouting_cli ( http://www.repo.hu/projects/freerouting_cli/
). Obviously, specctra import/export remains an option generally.

pcb-rnd retains the original autoplace code from gEDA PCB, plus has a
smart disperse plugin which can be used.

The pcb-rnd code has been modularised, making additional plugin
support easier generally.

Regards,

Erich


On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 5:24 PM conover AT panix DOT com (John Conover) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] writes:
> >
> > Many of the deficiencies in the data model and capabilities of gEDA
> > PCB have been addressed in pcb-rnd, for example:
> .
> .
> .
> > - seamless external autorouter support, using either standalone
> > freerouting or freerouting-cli, plus infrastructure for other routers,
> >
>
> The routing capability of pcb-rnd is very poor, (never mind
> autoplace.) Simple circuits, (as few as 3 simple components,) fail to
> complete and require manual intervention. (It is a ComputerVision
> polygon pusher clone from the 1970's.)
>
> I hope pcb(1) is not one of the programs that is going to become
> abandon ware. Its a fairly good router, and doesn't cost $100K per
> seat and $7K a month maintenance like the Cadence tool chain.
>
>     John
>
> --
>
> John Conover, conover AT panix DOT com, http://www.johncon.com/

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