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From: "Shashank Chintalagiri (shashank DOT chintalagiri AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:12:19 +0530
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] is geda dead yet?
To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
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I continued to use gEDA for a generation or two after the Ubuntu packages
were removed by building from sources, and after that switched to lepton.
On machines which are still on an older LTS or where someone put in the
effort to build gEDA and dependencies in our organization, gEDA is still
used.I do still use pcb, though, and not pcb-rnd.

I would suggest that if you are planning on pulling the gEDA servers,
please try to do so only after all of the gEDA history and assets are moved
elsewhere. This includes moving the repositories to github, serving the
release files somewhere, keeping gedasymbols.org alive, and making sure all
the documentation and wiki are mirrored somewhere. The ideal result would
be that the software be buildable by someone who is willing to put in the
effort, irrespective of what the distributions are doing in terms of
dependencies. This could be done the way windows does it, building the
dependencies and installing a private copy as part of the installation
process itself. I would not recommend using things like flatpak or snap for
this, since I'm not entirely convinced either of those formats taken
independently is certain to be long lived.

As a person who does not know much about the gEDA sources and haven't ever
used scheme, I don't know how much effort this would be. I am open to
helping with this transfer, though.






On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 10:13=E2=80=AFAM DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]"
> <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> writes:
> > Well I still use it
>
> I appreciate that there are still some users of these programs, but
> without developers, they will quickly become unusable as distros upgrade
> toolkits and geda starts failing to build.
>
> Users of gschem and pcb are probably best served by switching to one of
> the forks, like lepton and pcb-rnd, which have active development.
>


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Chintalagiri Shashank
shashank DOT chintalagiri AT gmail DOT com

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I continued to use gEDA for a generation or two after=
 the Ubuntu packages were removed by building from sources, and after that =
switched to lepton. On machines which are still on an older LTS or where so=
meone put in the=20
effort to build gEDA and dependencies in our organization, gEDA is still
 used.I do still use pcb, though, and not pcb-rnd. <br></div><div><br></div=
><div>I would suggest that if you are planning on pulling the gEDA servers,=
 please try to do so only after all of the gEDA history and assets are move=
d elsewhere. This includes moving the repositories to github, serving the r=
elease files somewhere, keeping <a href=3D"http://gedasymbols.org">gedasymb=
ols.org</a> alive, and making sure all the documentation and wiki are mirro=
red somewhere. The ideal result would be that the software be buildable by =
someone who is willing to put in the effort, irrespective of what the distr=
ibutions are doing in terms of dependencies. This could be done the way win=
dows does it, building the dependencies and installing a private copy as pa=
rt of the installation process itself. I would not recommend using things l=
ike flatpak or snap for this, since I&#39;m not entirely convinced either o=
f those formats taken independently is certain to be long lived.<br></div><=
div><br></div><div>As a person who does not know much about the gEDA source=
s and haven&#39;t ever used scheme, I don&#39;t know how much effort this w=
ould be. I am open to helping with this transfer, though. <br></div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 10, 20=
23 at 10:13=E2=80=AFAM DJ Delorie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com">dj@=
delorie.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">&quot;Britton Kerin (<a href=3D"mailto:britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-=
user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]&quot;<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT de=
lorie.com</a>&gt; writes:<br>
&gt; Well I still use it<br>
<br>
I appreciate that there are still some users of these programs, but<br>
without developers, they will quickly become unusable as distros upgrade<br=
>
toolkits and geda starts failing to build.<br>
<br>
Users of gschem and pcb are probably best served by switching to one of<br>
the forks, like lepton and pcb-rnd, which have active development.<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span class=3D"gmail_signature_pre=
fix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>Chintalagiri Shashank<br><a href=3D"mailto:shashank DOT chintalagiri AT gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">shashank DOT chintalagiri AT gmail DOT com</a></div></div>

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